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Exhibit A for USA/EU pro-Muslim/Hindu, Christian-hating foreign policy: Naga Christians in NE India
Sify News ^ | 4/8/08 | Maloy Krishna Dhar

Posted on 04/08/2008 12:59:41 AM PDT by Javeth

Till some years ago, the general Nagas [Baptist Christian people in NE India] contemptuously described mainland Indians as ‘Indian dogs.” The situation has not changed much since than. Mainland Indians are looked upon as imperial exploiters, and they in turn still treat the people of these “outer areas” as “naked junglees.” [snip]

"The Naga tract is conveniently divided between the Indian Army, Underground armed insurgents and some semblance of state administration.

Delhi suffers from perpetual amnesia and occasionally wakes up to resume peace talks and declares a ceasefire. What else can you do with a part of “outer India?”

Constitutionally, geophysically and geopolitically these are parts of India. But our minds have not met [snip]. We live like isolated islands in a sea of undefined and vague constitutional oneness. This illusion is both real and unreal.

The dominant Isak-Muivah faction, like the ULFA of Asom, is the father figure of all insurgent groups in the North East, numbering about 114, including nearly a dozen Muslim rebel outfits. The NSCN firepower is increasing by the day and their influence has started taking a Pan-Naga character. The dream of Nagalim- a greater Nagaland comprising Assam, Manipur Naga inhabited areas is considered as a fait accompli.

[snip] But a corruption free India is as illusory as the gates to heaven or hell, whichever you prefer to enter.

[snip]

The North East of India is not only in the northeast of India’s geophysical and geopolitical map. It is, in fact, in the remotest corner of East by North East of our national consciousness. Most us take it for granted that it exists, because the printed map says so.

In reality, it does not exist in our map of mind."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christians; india; kosovo; nagaland
Nagaland has never been part of India-- they are a Mongol people, physically, ethnically and culturally distinct from India. They had an independent nation before 1947. They were promised by both the British and Indians that their sovereignty would be respected, but this promise was betrayed after Indian independence, by both sides.

Oh, and the Nagas also made one other, critical "mistake": They became Christians in the late 19th century, Baptist Christians to be exact-- one of the most Christian nations on earth:

http://www.nagalim.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1&Itemid=8

As we've all come to recognize from the Christian-hating policies of the Clinton and Bush Administrations, let alone the European Union, the NWO formula for deciding which side to take in a conflict has become quite simple:

1. If a warring side is Muslim and engaged in a bloody war of ethnic cleansing against Christians, that group will receive the full blessing and even military support of the USA, assisted by anti-Christian EU tinpot dictators such as the Fuhrerin Angela Merkel of Germany and Tony Blair of Britain. Even if the region is an ancient Christian historic heartland like Kosovo for the Serbs, and Muslims became the majority through massive illegal immigration in recent decades, all that matters is Muslim invaders = good and noble, Christian natives = evil and worthy of ethnic cleansing. Bonus points if the Muslim invaders are also al-Qaeda allies directly supporting Islamic terrorism, and extra bonus points if this terrorist activity helps to bring about a massive terrorist attack on US soil, while the Muslim separatism encourages analogous US movements. See: September 11 attacks, Aztlan

2. If a group of people is itself a Christian nation fighting for its independence and basic human rights from the genocidal clutches of an occupying enemy-- and especially if that outside power is Hindu and/or Muslim-- then this freedom-loving Christian nation will incur the full wrath and rage of the US State Department, as well as Fuhrerin Merkel and the bureaucrats of the EU. Full support will be given to the oppressing Hindu and/or Muslim nation (including nukes in contravention to international accords), and the Christians fighting for their very survival will be denied all recognition. Both the Nagaland and Mizoram Christians therefore face persecution, atrocities and genocide with the full blessing of the US State Department and EU.

I'm still trying to figure out what exactly in our culture has made our political and economic elites so contemptuously hateful of Christians worldwide, even Baptist Christians like the Nagas who became Christian mainly due to US efforts! I'll certainly continue to spread the word for the Nagas, and I'll refuse to buy anything German until Christian-hating Fuhrerin Angela Merkel is summarily tossed out of office. Considering the way that Fuhrerin Merkel has consistently demonstrated her hatred of Balkan Christians, while encouraging mass Muslim Turkish/North African immigration into the EU while depriving individual EU states of their sovereignty to decide, it is obvious that Fuhrerin Merkel is Public Enemy #1 for all freedom-loving Christian peoples, and we should work vigorously to ensure her fall. Appalling that our tax dollars are being applied to damage and ruin Christian peoples throughout the world, and that both US State Department and EU elites so gleefully collaborate in these atrocities!

1 posted on 04/08/2008 12:59:42 AM PDT by Javeth
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To: Javeth

A Church I sometimes attend in DC is sponsoring a family living in Nagaland. A church there invited them to assist the community primarily in education, Christian, english language and other.

Since almost the day they arrived they have been harassed. They have even been accosted on their own verandah by armed men. Fortunately, none of the family have been hurt yet, and they are determined to stick it out.

This story has been confirmed by a lady I’ve known for more than 40 years. She travels the world working with local churches. She has visited this families home in Nagaland and has witnessed a few incidents.

For security reasons I can’t say anything about location or who is harassing them.


2 posted on 04/08/2008 2:56:19 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: jimtorr

Thanks for sharing this Jim— your story, while harrowing, regrettably does not surprise me.

Almost every Naga family I’ve met has experienced unbelievable levels of abuse, persecution and anti-Christian hysteric hatred perpetrated by Indian Army forces, both Hindu and Muslim. The Naga culture and languages are aggressively repressed, while the Naga villages are raped and murdered almost with impunity.

One Naga involved with our church compared the Hindu/Muslim campaign against the Christians of Nagaland and Mizoram to the almost genocidal hatred perpetrated against the Sikhs in Punjab by Indira Gandhi’s thugs in 1984, and indeed the resemblances are not accidental: The Sikhs, also, were promised their own independent nation (Khalistan) but were betrayed, just as the Nagas were, by both the British and the Indian governments.

IOW, the Naga Christians and the Sikhs both occupy independent nations yet have been denied their rights to self-determination by Hindu/Muslim hegemony. If anything, it’s even worse for the Nagas and the Mizoram Christians, since they’re also quite ethnically (and physically) different from the rest of India. As you know, the Nagas essentially look East Asian or SE Asian, which has also contributed to racist hatred against them.

It sometimes shames me to be an American, to think that our country, let alone the Eurabians, has abandoned these Baptist Christian folk, people whom our own missionaries spread the Gospel to in the first place. It’s an atrocious example of NWO geopolitics and anti-Christian hatred in action.


3 posted on 04/08/2008 7:28:55 AM PDT by Javeth (Free the Naga Christians of Nagaland in India! http://tinyurl.com/2o4vf3)
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To: Javeth

Lies, all Lies!

Everyone knows that the Indians are a peaceful spiritual people who have never invaded anyone in 1000000000 years. This is all a plot by Christist evangehadies as part of the evil conspiracy developed by Marxist/Mohammedan-Abrahamic/Atlantacist alliance.

:-)


4 posted on 04/09/2008 6:39:14 AM PDT by cmdjing
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To: Javeth; cmdjing
Oh, how "peaceful", these Nagas!
 

http://www.alertnet.org/db/crisisprofiles/IN_CLA.htm?v=in_detail

 

 

 

 

TENSIONS IN THE SEVEN SISTERS


 

A victim of a grenade blast in Guwahati, Assam. June, 2006. REUTERS/Utpal Baruah
A victim of a grenade blast in Guwahati, Assam. June, 2006. REUTERS/Utpal Baruah

Clinging to India by a thread of land known as the "chicken's neck", the northeastern states have been ravaged by 50 years of bloody conflicts.

 

Village is pitted against village, tribe against tribe, tribal against non-tribal. There are locals fighting against migrants and Muslims fighting for Islamic rule. Independence movements battle for secession (or autonomy) for their various districts, states, or pan-state tribal homelands - and these demands often conflict, causing further violence.

 

In two of the seven states, Assam and Manipur, there is low intensity war. A ceasefire was agreed in Nagaland several years ago but inter-faction fighting continues. There are also small militant groups in Tripura.

 

Corruption and extortion are rife and many insurgent groups have become criminalised. Small arms are widespread. A substantial development budget from the capital largely leaks away along illegitimate channels.

 

Over 50,000 people have died in the violence since 1947. Large numbers of people have been displaced by conflict. Exact numbers are not known, but there are thought to be hundreds of thousands of IDPs, with the greatest forced displacements in Assam, Manipur and Tripura. But there does not appear to have been any proper assessment of the displaced and their conditions by any governmental or non-governmental organisation.

 

Access is tricky. International staff from humanitarian organisations are in general denied entry into the states. Those who do get in are closely monitored and their movements restricted.

 

"It's completely forgotten," says Helen O'Neill, of MSF-Holland, which works in Assam and Manipur. "Nobody really thinks about it or knows about it. It surprises us that there isn't more out there in the press about it. But India really does not want international NGOs treating it like the Third World."

 

SEGREGATION


 

Soldiers patrol near the Bangladesh border in Tripura.
Soldiers patrol near the Bangladesh border in Tripura.

The conflicts have their roots in the extraordinary diversity of the area - a gateway between India and eastern Asia. Its people have resisted control by the empires of India throughout history.

 

The area is a turbulence of languages, races, religions and civilisations, including 400 tribal and sub-tribal groups many of whom fear loss of identity.

 

The tribes arrived in waves of migration from the East and the West. During the time of the British in India more were added to the melting pot, coming from other parts of India to work as administrators, plantation workers and cultivators.

 

The British segregated the tribal populations into areas akin to reservations between 1874 and 1935. This created a gulf between "backward" tribal areas and the modernising non-tribal plains - a division that persisted after India gained independence in 1947.

 

When Bangladesh achieved independence in 1971 the result was economic disaster for the northeastern states. Their inland water, road and railway communications with the rest of India were abruptly severed and they lost access to any port.

 

Soon after, the Chinese takeover of Tibet along with political changes in Myanmar hardened softer borders that lay to the east.

 

The region's population has recently increased with migrants from Myanmar, Nepal and Bangladesh.

 

Although the central government has made substantial investment in economic development this has not improved the lot of the ordinary person.

 

The states are poorly governed and rife with corruption and extortion.

 

The prognosis for the region is mixed. Although India uses its military to weaken rebels, it acknowledges that only political solutions will work. It has held dialogues with many insurgent groups and brokered peace deals with some of them.

 

In 2004 the government announced it would hold talks with any group willing to stop violence, without demanding they disarm first. This led to an increased number of peace talks.

 

The public is applying more pressure for peaceful resolutions of grievances, and civil society groups in the region have become more active, helping to start and facilitate dialogues.

 

But there are so many militant groups that some have increased their violence in response to the government opening talks with others.

 

NAGALAND


 

A Naga rebel at the 58th anniversary of unilateral day of independence. Aug. 14, 2005. REUTERS/Adnan Abidi
A Naga rebel at the 58th anniversary of unilateral day of independence. Aug. 14, 2005. REUTERS/Adnan Abidi

The conflict in jungle-covered Nagaland is India's oldest and is credited with having inspired almost all the ethnic groups in the region who now fight for autonomy.

 

Nagas, a loose collection of about 30 tribes, have fought since 1947 for a separate homeland that includes parts of the predominantly Christian state of Nagaland as well as areas in Manipur, Assam and Arunachal Pradesh.

 

India says creation of a greater Naga state might spark fierce agitations in other states.

 

Security analysts say peace with the Nagas is crucial for a broader peace in the northeast.

 

More than 20,000 people died in the Naga insurgency until a ceasefire in 1997. The rebels and the Indian government have since held many rounds of talks. But little progress has been made on the group's key demands for the right to self-rule and the creation of a new state containing all Naga dominated areas.

 

The billions of dollars' worth of oil thought to lie underneath Nagaland are also a factor in the conflict. India's state-run Oil and Natural Gas Corporation (ONGC) was forced out of the area more than a decade ago but was readmitted in 2006. Nagaland officials hope the revenues will help make Nagaland a self-reliant state.

 

The National Socialist Council of Nagaland (NCSN) is the most powerful rebel group in the region but is divided by feuding.

 

Rebels have accused the government of killing scores of their cadres in violation of the ceasefire. But analysts say a return to conflict is unlikely.

 

The NSCN agreed in July 2006 to extend the ceasefire by another year and continue with peace talks. Another round began in December 2006, but there has been no breakthrough.

 

In January 2008, India's federal government dissolved Nagaland's state assembly following a controversial no-confidence vote in the assembly moved by the opposition. The imposition of presidential rule came weeks before scheduled elections for a new assembly.

 

ASSAM


 

A tea garden outside Siliguri in Assam.
A tea garden outside Siliguri in Assam.

The insurgency in Assam first arose from demands for the deportation of illegal Bangladeshi migrants.

 

Violence against foreigners continues. In 1994, Muslims of Bengali origin were chased out by rebels. Nearly 8,000 still live in roadside huts on the national highway near Bijni, unable to own or work the land. In 2005, thousands more were driven out by angry mobs, accused of being illegal migrants from Bangladesh.

 

A second campaign in Assam is the secessionist insurgency, which was formally launched in 1979 with the creation of armed groups such as the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA). At least 10,000 people have been killed in separatist violence in Assam over the past 25 years

 

Another insurgency emerged in the late 1980s, with the Bodo tribal group demanding a separate state within India.

 

Fighting between the Bodos and another tribal group, the Santhals, has displaced around 250,000 people since it erupted in the early 1990s. As of December 2005, around 110,000 people remained in relief camps. Many others have been forced out of camps, say their leaders, and are now landless and destitute.

 

In the late 1990s militant organisations proliferated along tribal, religious and cultural faultlines. They included a number of Muslim militias.

 

Fighting between Karbi and Dimasa tribal insurgent groups in late 2005 displaced up to 50,000 people in the hill district of Karbi Anglong. They are now living in appalling conditions, according to the Asian Centre for Human Rights.

 

Some rebel groups in Assam have made deals with the government that have brought relative peace in some areas, but other groups have resurged, bringing new insecurities.

 

In 2006, the ULFA unleashed a series of explosions, pausing in August when the Indian military agreed to cease operations against them.

 

But peace talks collapsed in September and India resumed military operations, sending 2,000 more troops into the state in November.

 

Since then rebel attacks against police and security forces, politicians and railway construction workers have continued.

 

MANIPUR


 

Sanayaima, chairman of the United National Liberation Front, which is fighting for independence for Manipur.
Sanayaima, chairman of the United National Liberation Front, which is fighting for independence for Manipur.

Tiny Manipur has just over 2 million inhabitants. Tribal groups there, mainly Nagas and Kukis, have been fighting for separate homelands since 1974. The state has been administered by the Indian army since 1980.

 

Tensions between tribal groups have spawned many secondary conflicts, often over changes in land ownership. One assessment found 18 active insurgency groups in the state.

 

There is little industry and there are few job opportunities, leading thousands of frustrated young people to join the separatists.

 

The Indian army has carried out counter-insurgency operations against local militias who hide along the border with Myanmar.

 

These operations, together with ethnic clashes, have displaced some 6,000 people. They were reported in January 2006 to be living in deplorable conditions, lacking food, medicines, warm clothes and other essential commodities.

 

A six-year hunger strike by a young Manipuri woman has drawn attention to the government's controversial Armed Forces Special Powers Act or AFSPA, which gives sweeping powers to the army in the state.

 

The government says the law is necessary but civil society groups say it has led to gross human rights violations by the army.

 

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said in December 2006 that the law would be amended to make it more "humane" and considerate of "basic human and civil rights".

 

Manipur also has an endemic drug problem because of its proximity to the opium fields of the Golden Triangle, with an accompanying epidemic of HIV/AIDS.

 

TRIPURA


Tripura, a knobble of land protruding south into Bangladesh, is home to native tribals and Bengalis.

 

Most of the latter, who make up three-quarters of the population of 3 million, arrived as refugees from Bangladesh after its independence in 1971.

 

There are two main separatist rebel groups, the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) and the All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF). Both want independence for the tribal areas of the state, with the removal of Bengali immigrants, and both have attacked the Bengali-speaking community as well as kidnapping their political opposition.

 

Attacks on Bengalis in northern Tripura have caused displacement - there are thought now to be 50,000 to 100,000 IDPs.

 

Another major cause of displacement has been the building by India of a fence along the border with Bangladesh, during which tens of thousands of people were evicted from their homes.

 

Meanwhile, Tripura also hosts 31,000 people who fled fighting in the neighbouring state of Mizoram.

 

They remain in grim camps with severe food shortages because of an impasse in negotiations about their return to Mizoram.

 

At the end of 2006 several Indian newspapers reported a sharp decline in violence in Tripura. Abductions have plummeted (542 in 2000 to 35 in 2006), according to the Director General of Police G M Srivastava. Police chiefs say that the number of killings has dropped too, citing 19 insurgency-related deaths in 2007 compared to 152 in 2000.

 

THE OTHER STATES


Arunachal Pradesh, the most north-easterly state, is generally portrayed as a peaceful neighbour that suffers primarily from an overflow of violence from neighbouring Nagaland.

 

But there are signs that indigenous insurgent groups are appearing.

 

Mizoram is also relatively peaceful. The Mizo National Front signed a deal with the government in 1986 ending a 20-year insurgency.

 

But the activities of the Bru National Liberation Front (BNLF) have increased, causing some casualties.

 

Many of the tribes in Meghalaya have set up militant organisations that are committing violence against each other and increasingly getting involved in criminal and extortion activities.

 

The two key militant outfits are the Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC) and the Achik National Volunteer Council (ANVC).

 

Some analysts say they camouflage their activities with political demands for protection against foreigners and the creation of separate homelands.

 


 

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National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT)

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/nlft.htm



The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) was formed in December 1989 for the purpose of seceding from India in order to create an independent Christian fundamentalist state of Tripura. The group was banned under the Unlawful Activies Prevention Act of 1967.

The headquarters of NLFT is located in the Khagrachari district of Bangladesh, about 40-45 km southeast of Simanapur.

In Tripura a systematic surrender of arms by a faction of NLFT insurgents and NLFT fringe groups is due to the increased security pressure and to infighting within NLFT insurgent ranks. Since 2000 a few hundred militants have surrendered in small groups to the security forces, handing in their weapons. The NLFT leadership engaged in peace talks with Mizoram Chief Zoramthanga in April 2001, however the NLFT has not promised acceptance of any future peace process.

The NLFT has set up a number of camps in Bangladesh's Chittagong Hill Tracts (CHT), in the Sylhet, Maulavi Bazar, Habiganj and Comilla regions. NLFT also has ties with Pakistan’s external intelligence agency, the Inter Services Intelligence Agency (ISI).

 

5 posted on 04/09/2008 9:00:58 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: jimtorr; Javeth
Nagaland has never been part of India-- they are a Mongol people, physically, ethnically and culturally distinct from India.

 

India is not a country based on one race. The Nagas are no more or no less different from the average Indian as is a Dravidian from an  Indo-Aryan. Or a Malayali from a Tamilian. Or a Gujarati from a Kashmiri. This racial BS is a double-edged sword. Be warned.

Oh, and the Nagas also made one other, critical "mistake": They became Christians in the late 19th century, Baptist Christians to be exact-- one of the most Christian nations on earth:

Probably one of the most violent, then. They are "Christians" more than they are Christians, if you get what I mean.

They are so "Christian," they have not hesitated to rape and pillage, in the name of spreading the faith, among their own fellow Nagas who haven't let go of their ancient ways.

 

1. If a warring side is Muslim and engaged in a bloody war of ethnic cleansing against Christians, that group will receive the full blessing and even military support of the USA, assisted by anti-Christian EU tinpot dictators such as the Fuhrerin Angela Merkel of Germany and Tony Blair of Britain. Even if the region is an ancient Christian historic heartland like Kosovo for the Serbs, and Muslims became the majority through massive illegal immigration in recent decades, all that matters is Muslim invaders = good and noble, Christian natives = evil and worthy of ethnic cleansing. Bonus points if the Muslim invaders are also al-Qaeda allies directly supporting Islamic terrorism, and extra bonus points if this terrorist activity helps to bring about a massive terrorist attack on US soil, while the Muslim separatism encourages analogous US movements. See: September 11 attacks, Aztlan

*YAWN*

 

2. If a group of people is itself a Christian nation fighting for its independence and basic human rights from the genocidal clutches of an occupying enemy-- and especially if that outside power is Hindu and/or Muslim-- then this freedom-loving Christian nation will incur the full wrath and rage of the US State Department, as well as Fuhrerin Merkel and the bureaucrats of the EU. Full support will be given to the oppressing Hindu and/or Muslim nation (including nukes in contravention to international accords), and the Christians fighting for their very survival will be denied all recognition. Both the Nagaland and Mizoram Christians therefore face persecution, atrocities and genocide with the full blessing of the US State Department and EU.

[A deep breath]... *YAWN!*

PS: India is not a Hindu nation.

 

I'll certainly continue to spread the word for the Nagas, and I'll refuse to buy anything German until Christian-hating Fuhrerin Angela Merkel is summarily tossed out of office. Considering the way that Fuhrerin Merkel has consistently demonstrated her hatred of Balkan Christians, while encouraging mass Muslim Turkish/North African immigration into the EU while depriving individual EU states of their sovereignty to decide, it is obvious that Fuhrerin Merkel is Public Enemy #1 for all freedom-loving Christian peoples, and we should work vigorously to ensure her fall. Appalling that our tax dollars are being applied to damage and ruin Christian peoples throughout the world, and that both US State Department and EU elites so gleefully collaborate in these atrocities!

 

Whatever.

6 posted on 04/09/2008 9:15:13 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Javeth; jimtorr
These people really seem very peaceful...

...Taliban-style.


http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/tripura/terrorist_outfits/NLFT_tl.htm



Incidents involving National Liberation Front of Tripura

 
 

 

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Chief Minister Manik Sarkar alleges that factions of the Nagaland-based National Socialist Council of Nagaland– Isak Muivah and Khaplang (NSCN-IM and NSCN-K) are supporting the NLFT and ATTF.

During an interview with the British Broadcasting Corporation, Nayanbasi Jamatiya, leader of a faction of the NLFT, indicates that "tripartite" talks with the Tripura and Union Governments would be possible only in a third country.

NLFT-Nayanbasi Jamatiya terrorists release the remaining five members of a folk theatre group they had abducted on February 2, 2003. Their seven colleagues had been released earlier in April, reportedly after the payment of ransom.

Police recover dead body of a tribal, killed by NLFT terrorists from Bhati Maidan area, Champahaor police station limits, West Tripura district.

Special Police Officer killed and four police personnel are injured in an NLFT laid-ambush at Maithulungbari, South Tripura district.

Three NLFT terrorists surrender to Assam Rifles at Bhangmun, North Tripura

An SF personnel succumbs to injuries at a Hospital in Kolkata. He was injured on March 26 in an NLFT attack while escorting the Additional Director-General of Police (ADGP) Pranay Sahay, in the Barmura Hills, West Tripura district.

Three persons, abducted by NLFT terrorists on March 12 return home safely at Raghna, North Tripura district.

NLFT terrorists attack Hridaybasti village and set ablaze four huts. A young girl is injured while taking cover from firing by terrorists.

NLFT terrorists attack a SF convoy at Gulsingbari, Champahaor police station-limits, West Tripura injuring four SF personnel.

NLFT terrorists abduct two CPI-M supporters from Shambhucharanpara, Jirania police station limits, West Tripura district.

NLFT terrorists abduct and later kill two CPI-M supporters at Karnasinghpara village, Gandacherra police station limits, Dhalai district.

A civilian abducted by NLFT is later killed at Kachhima, Amarpur police station limits, West Tripura district.

NLFT terrorists kill two terrorists of the rival ATTF at Ekraibari, Kalyanpur police station limits, West Tripura district.

Government enquiry is initiated into alleged nexus in Tripura between an Assam Rifles personnel and NLFT. The officer allegedly facilitated transfer of at least 6,000 rounds of ammunition and a large number of arms to NLFT.

NLFT terrorists abduct and later kill two CPM activists from Akchhapara village, South Tripura district.

2002

Three NLFT terrorists are arrested from a place in Gandacherra sub-division, Dhalai district.

Police arrest NLFT terrorist Aranyapaja Jamatia from Ambassa village, Dhalai district. Another NLFT terrorist Nagendra Reang is also nabbed from Raisyabari village of the district.

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7 posted on 04/09/2008 9:32:34 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Javeth; jimtorr; cmdjing
Rot -- there are Christians in other parts of India -- in Goa which is 30% Christian and in Southern India which has up to 5% or more Christians -- where you have Christians dating back to the time of St. Thomas the Apostle and you have tons of Catholic and Orthodox Christians who are free to preach, build churchs, live and worship.

The north-eastern problem is due to remoteness -- they are separated from mainland India by Bangaladesh and China. India is made up of tons of ethnicities and no, there is no throdding down on the NAgas -- if they became independent they would be swallowed up by Bangaladesh and their culture obliterated. In India, you have NAgas and others who do well in delhi, bangalore etc.

And Don't make this a Christian-Hindu fight, that's ROT, India has George Fernandes, AK Antony etc. who are leading politicians, they have Indians in business, the armed forces etc. who face no persecution except by extremist idiots -- you talk about Graham Steines murder -- do you know that India as a whole was disgusted by the act and condemned it strongly? Did you know that the murdered was condemned to DEATH -- a really strong sentence in India which did not even hand out death to terrorists who planned a bombattack on India's parliament???

The NAga problem is a problem of remoteness from the mainstream and yes, poverty and ethnic differences. India does not smash down on ethnicities like China or Burma or Bangaladesh, Nagas are better off in the Indian federation
8 posted on 04/10/2008 9:03:51 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: CarrotAndStick; jimtorr; Javeth
Nagaland has never been part of India-- they are a Mongol people, physically, ethnically and culturally distinct from India

That shows how LITTLE you know and understand of India -- India has Aryans, Dravidians (another Caucasian branch), Mongoloids, some Negroids (Siddhi fighters from Somalia), Turkic peoples and even Australoids (tribals like the Andamanese. India also has 800 dialects and 20+ regional languages --> each with it's own script. India has all the known religions in the world -- 800 million Hindus, 150 million Muslims, 30 to 45 million Christians, then Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains and India is home to the largest numbers of Zoroastrians (religion of Cyrus the great of Persia) after they fled the slamic conquest of Persia, India had a significant Jewish community -- the only Jewish community in the world that was not persecuted. Add to this that India has a wide disparity in economic class and you should realise that India is a land of contrasts with no ONE entity pre-dominant --> it's not like Japan, one ethnicity, it's not like the USA, a melting pot. It's rather like a salad with different ethnicities free to maintain their identity

You think Indian Hindus are one monolithic group? No, they'd then separate into Maharashtrians and Biharis? What about Bihari Hindus? No, they separate out by caste? Then, they'd separate out by class, then by social status.
9 posted on 04/10/2008 9:11:12 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: CarrotAndStick; Cronos

Wow, an anti-Naga propaganda dump. I’m truly impressed.

If majority Hindu-Muslim India is so open and tolerant toward Naga Christians and other minorities, as you claim, then tell me, why were 25,000 Sikhs butchered in India in 1984? If the Sikhs and other minorities are so safe within kumbayah multicultural India like you claim, why was Operation Bluestar launched specifically against the Sikhs in that year, with a mass murder of so many Sikh civilians?

Contrary to your claims of a tolerant multicultural nation where different faiths and ethnicities are tolerated and flourish, ethnic hatred periodically leads to bloody massacres throughout India, most notably the Golden Temple violence and the other bloody attacks perpetrated against the Sikhs.

And your lame attempt to knock the Nagas is just laugh-inducing, honestly.

Did you stop to think about specifically why there’s been so much unrest within Nagaland and the Northeast? Because the Nagas have been fighting for their freedom since they were betrayed by India in 1948, that’s why. Even Gandhi himself wanted the Nagas to have full self-determination and freedom for their own state before 1948, a right that was denied the Nagas where the rubber met the road, and after Gandhi had been conveniently assassinated, of course.

Nagaland has never been at peace because it has never been a part of India, ever, and only the violent occupation of Indian troops from elsewhere has maintained Nagalim within the Indian state, where the Naga voice is virtually drowned out. The Nagas have been doing nothing more than fighting in their own self-defense since 1948, to fulfill the promises that Gandhi and others gave them for their own right to self-determination.

As for your laughable claim about “toleration” for other Christians in India, if that’s the case, then why the frenzy to pass “anti-conversion laws” that refuse to even recognize Christians in e.g. Tamil Nadu if they themselves declare that they are Christian? It’s one thing to hate Christians there, it’s quite another to tell a Christian to her face, that she’s not Christian because the government says she’s not. (Many of these laws passed by the BJP in those states, hardly an emblem of “multicultural tolerance” to say the least.)

And to top off that whopper of a post you put up, you say that the Nagas shouldn’t receive their promised right to self-determination because... Bangladesh would swallow them up? BANGLADESH???? ROTFLMAO!! You mean, that “powerful, aggressive nation” of Bangladesh that’s perpetually in a state of overwhelming squalor? That’s virtually buried under monsoon rains every year?

I have sympathy for the Bangladeshi people as individuals, but as a state actor itself, your claim about Bangladesh as a military threat is just truly hilarious. Bangladesh itself is an Exhibit A— for the incompetence of the governments in Muslim-majority states and the serial disasters that inevitably befall Muslim lands, due to gross corruption and mind-boggling mismanagement. Bangladesh has its hands full trying to prevent starvation and to make sure its cities don’t get deluged by the latest monsoon to hit its shores, and it’s fully dependent on foreign aid to make sure its people don’t starve.

Bangladesh is in no position to launch military operations against anybody, least of all against a newly independent state like Nagaland that was promised its freedom and self-determination in the first place before that promise was broken. Any such attack by Bangladesh would provoke the wrath of the international community and lead to the cut-off of food and other aid to Bangladesh, without which Bangladesh would perish as a nation. You’ve launched some quite hilarious arguments here, but fear-mongering about Bangladesh truly tops the list.


10 posted on 04/10/2008 4:11:19 PM PDT by Javeth (Free the Naga Christians of Nagaland in India! http://tinyurl.com/2o4vf3)
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To: Javeth
The only things I know about Nagaland I learned from my old friend who has actually been there, so I'm in no position to judge who is exaggerating what. However, even I know that Christians can have a rough time of it in many parts of India.

It looks like the persecution of Christian Nagaland continues even on FreeRepublic.

11 posted on 04/10/2008 4:37:22 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Javeth

Nagas have been fighting Nagas and other tribes in the North-East longer than they have been fighting the Union army.

The US too had its civil war, at an intensity that would make light joke of the Naga/Khasi tribal warfare. SO, do you advocate independence for the Confederacy? What is your position on the Hispanic-majority regions of the US?

25,000 Sikhs butchered? I can only laugh. Who was Bhindranwale? Why did he convert the Golden Temple into a cache for arms and grenades? Operation Bluestar was launched specifically against militant Sikhs, induced into fighting a meaningless war against their own nation, by Pakistan, and the operation conducted largely by fellow Sikhs themselves. Ever heard of KPS Gill? Your attempt at cleaving Sikhs is in itself humerous, and displays your ignorance on the particularities of that community- characteristics that give strong clues on why the “separatist” movement failed. A large proportion of Sikh families have Hindu members within the families themselves, and Sikhs are spread around India, with their lives entrenched in local businesses wherever they have settled. These Sikhs don’t advocate an independent state. The majority of the rest don’t do, either.

To top it all, India’s army was headed by a Sikh, the Prime-Minister is Sikh, and the Election Commissioner was from the North-East.

I will ask you this: Just as eager as you are that Nagaland gain independence, are you equally supportive of the natives of North America evicting the foreign settlers and their descendents that have overwhelmingly occupied the lands? Nagaland has not had that sort of a phenomenon taking place. India has not swamped it with inhabitants from elsewhere, but people like you give them good reason to explore that avenue, also.

Nagas are one of the tribes that occupy the region. What about the rest? What about the non-convert Nagas against whom your fellow Christian Nagas have been waging war for so long?

As for the rest of your post, I’ll reply when there is time.


12 posted on 04/10/2008 7:59:39 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: jimtorr
However, even I know that Christians can have a rough time of it in many parts of India.

Not to the extent natives and Hindus and others who have refused to accept forced conversion, have been persecuted- largely by Naga militant fundamentalists.

13 posted on 04/10/2008 8:02:52 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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BBC News Online

Monday, 28 August, 2000, 08:10 GMT 09:10 UK
Hindu preacher killed by Tripura rebels
 
A tribal Hindu spiritual leader has been killed by separatist rebels in the northeastern Indian state of Tripura.

Police say about ten guerrillas belonging to the outlawed National Liberation Front of Tripura ,the NLFT, broke into a temple near the town of Jirania on Sunday night and shot dead Shanti Tripura, a popular Hindu preacher popularly known as Shanti Kali.

The separatist group says it wants to convert all tribespeople in the state to Christianity.

The BBC correspondent in the region says the killing has created tension between the majority of tribals, who are Hindu or Buddhist, and the small number of Christian converts.

From the newsroom of the BBC World Service

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/899422.stm

 

 

Wednesday, 27 December, 2000, 14:31 GMT
Tripura tribal leader killed
 
Police in the northeastern Indian state of Tripura say a leading Hindu religious leader, who was kidnapped by suspected separatist rebels on Monday, has been found dead.

Police say the body of the man, Labh Kumar Jamatia, was discovered in a forest in Dalak village in southern Tripura.

He was the leader of the state's second largest Hindu group.

According to police, rebels from the National Liberation Front of Tripura wanted Mr Jamatia to convert to Christianity - but he refused.

The spritual chief of his tribe Bikram Bhadur Jamatia has called on the Indian police to provide protection for Hindu tribal leaders in Tripura.

From the newsroom of the BBC World Service

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1089578.stm

 

 

Monday, 2 October, 2000, 13:13 GMT 14:13 UK
Separatist group bans Hindu festivities
 
The leading separatist group in the north-east Indian state of Tripura has ordered indigenous tribespeople to stay away from celebrations of the Hindu festival Durga Puja.

The outlawed National Liberation Front of Tripura warned that any tribal members seen taking part in the festival would be killed.

In a statement, the NLFT said it wanted all tribespeople in Tripura to become Christians because the practice of Hinduism has led to them being marginalised by people of Bengali origin living in the state.

The Durga Puja is the biggest festival to be celebrated by Hindus from Bengal.

But Hindu tribal leaders have said they will defy the ban and take part in the celebrations.

From the newsroom of the BBC World Service

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/953200.stm

 

14 posted on 04/10/2008 8:42:21 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Javeth; jimtorr; CarrotAndStick; sukhoi-30mki
Is that an anti-Naga piece? No, I'm NOT anti-Naga. They have a right to maintaining their culture and religion. What I am saying is that in India they CAN DO THAT -- there are examples you can see of Christians thriving in India --> yes, there are examples of riots against Christians, but those are NOT the norm: if one goes by that example, then the few idiotic KKK members in the US would paint the US in a similar bad light: the KKK does not represent the vast majority of Americans, nor does the violent section of Hindu extremist groups represent all Hindus

What proof do I have for that statement: I gave you that -- Christians in India are freely allowed to build Churches, to preach -- BY THE LAW. You have Christians who are in various strata of society and you can see that for a fact. Secondly, I told you that Graham Steines murder was condemned by all of Hindu society and the murderer was sentenced to death by Hanging -- that in a country that doesn't use the death penalty even for terrorists


Why are Naga's fighting? Yes, they are a ethnically separate group, but is their culture being obliterated in INdia? No, show proof of that. If Naga culture was being obliterated, then India's myriad other cultures would also be affected: India has NO dominant culture throughout the land, unlike China, so all cultures get along -- yes there are fights at the edges, but Indians have so many overlying layers of themselves, if they start to divide, they can balkanise down to states of 10 - 12 people! Again, I repeat, look at what China is doing to Tibet and in contrast, tell me that Parsis in India (Persian Zoroatrians) or Jews or Christians (in Goa, in Karnataka, in the N-E) or Dravidians, or Rajasthanis have their cultures being threatened in the same way


To your points, the Sikhs riots were disgusting, but the figures you quote are incorrect -- there were deaths, but not 25,000, so check more impartial websites for accurate numbers

Operation Bluestar: look it up, was done BEFORE The riots. How did they start? Sikh separatists wanted a separate nation for Sikhs -- this was pushed by Pakistan as retribution for India having helped the Bangaladeshi's with their independence in 1971 (and read up on those massacres before commenting on a tit-for-tat). Were most Sikhs supportive of that? I doubt it -- why? Because Sikhs were and are, livign and working all over India and are very successful whereever they go. EVen now you have many Sikh businessmen outside the Punjab and the prime minister is a Sikh while many army men are Sikhs. Anyway, back to Blue-star: The separatists holed themselves up in the Sikh holy place -- the Golden Temple in Amritsar with weapons. Indira Gandhi made the decision to attack this and during the attack the temple was damaged. Was this a stupid decision on her part? Debatable as it removed out armed separatists, BUT it antagonised Sikhs worldwide -- and any one of us would be angry if our holy places were the scene of fighting. That caused her two body guards (who were Sikh, considering how highly respected Sikhs are in India for their martial prowess) to kill her. This triggered off the riots.

There was NO State-sponsored pogrom, remember that, the army came out to stop the 3 days of rioting.


Ethnic hatred does periodically lead to bloody massacres, yes, but are Indians better off as one federation rather than a thousand little nations? Yes, because there is no one dominant community over the entire country. Sikhs were attacked in 84, they also fought back and now recently Sikhs attacked memebers of another sect, the Dara somethings. Ditto for Hindus, Muslims, etc.

Even Nagas -- and you've got proof of that, do attack other tribals and other religions.

There are differences and as per the law different faiths and ethnicities are tolerated and flourish -- do they do so in reality: by and large yes. I gave you the examples of Christians, Sikhs, Parsis, Jews etc. in India. Ditto for ethnicities: you have Tamils who lead India, you have Punjabis who do well in business, ditto Gujaratis etc. You also have Chinese-indians who have set up businesses in Bombay (they are 4th / 5th generation Chinese).


"Knock the Nagas"? Where did I do that in my previous post. Even in this I tell you that they have the freedom of their culture and of their religion in India. They probably do have some persecution and do they persecute on their own part.

What do you suggest should be done for Nagas? Have a separate country? It's not viable, it would be gobbled up by Burma or Bangladesh or china would take over all of India's north-east. And have you seen what those countries that DO have dominant communities do to their minorities? No, Nagas are better off in India. Is Naga culture being obliterated? I say no, and I point out TAmil culture, Rajasthani, Bengali, Punjabi etc. cultures -- are THEY being obliterated in India? No. Furthermore, there are Nagas who are in Southern India as software professionals, as business men etc. -- what do you suggest, should they leave india which has a lot of business opportunities and go back to the hills in Nagaland?

"Betrayal in the North-East of India"? What proof do you have about any "promise" being made by the Brits?? Is a Naga independent state even possible before it gets swallowed up by China / Bangaladesh / burma? Do you want THAT for the NAga people? "Nagaland has never been at peace because it has never been a part of India, ever" -- and by what do you mean 'a part of India'? India never existed as a state until 1947. But, India was mooted as a federated state to hold the peoples of the sub-continent -- Nagas, Punjabis, Maharasthrians, Tamils etc. Furthermore, Nagaland WAS part of British India, so your statement, even in the narrow context of the British colony, is wrong.

Your other statement about Nagaland never being at peace is also wrong: there has been a cease-fire since 1997 and Nagas are getting more involved in mainstream India

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Toleration of Christians -- yes, look up AK Antony, George Fernandes, Margaret Alva as Christian Indians. The frenzy to pass anti-conversion laws is no more than political demagoguery and has hardly any reality to it -- I'll just ask you to go on to any social networking site and look up Indians who are Christian. I don't even have to quote numbers at you -- talk to the people on the ground.

Yes, Bangaladesh could swallow up Nagaland -- look at this map


Read up on the number of Bangaladeshi Muslims that are moving into NE India. Read up on the terrorism brought by those jihadis into India. Could Bangaladesh take over the NE of India? If your plan of breaking India down into it's constituent parts (like


works, then yes, all these tiny states would be prey to larger neighbors -- oh, and all those large states you see in the map above, they also have smaller elements or sub-states within them


You also completely ignore my statement saying that if Nagaland was an independent country it could be swallowed up by Bangaladesh or China or Burma. As an independent country, it would be tiny and deeply influenced by neighbors and would be swallowed up by one -- look at what happened to Tibet. A tiny state in that area is not viable -- even Bhutan has big brother india looking after it protecting it from China.
15 posted on 04/11/2008 12:18:13 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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Jim, you seem like a reasonable guy with your statement: The only things I know about Nagaland I learned from my old friend who has actually been there, so I'm in no position to judge who is exaggerating what.

That's true: all I'm saying is look up more details: go to orkut for example and find Christian Indians or Indians from NE india and ask them, get it straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak. Basing your opinion purely on the hearsay of one person is not correct.

However, even I know that Christians can have a rough time of it in many parts of India. Again, don't believe me, or news of sporadic violence. Just go to orkut and search for Indian christians and ask them, or google: Margaret Alva, John Abraham, Amul Cherian, George Fernandes, kerala christians, marthomites, goan christians, goan churches, tamil christians, dara Singh (the last is the scum who killed Steines and was sentenced to death) -- read up for yourself and make your own decision)

It looks like the persecution of Christian Nagaland continues even on FreeRepublic

Sheesh -- I AM Christian and I'm telling you that the stories of persecution are not correct -- it was a separatist movement that had violence on both sides, but now, since 1997 there has been peace and Nagas are doing well in other parts of India. the NE of india as a whole hasn't done as economically well as,say, south india, but it has improved (and has done better than central indian states like bihar)
16 posted on 04/11/2008 12:24:31 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: jimtorr
sometimes attend in DC is sponsoring a family living in Nagaland. A church there invited them to assist the community primarily in education, Christian, english language and other

NOte that that family would be white -- and, in a region which had a separatist movement, outsiders would be looked at suspiciously for fostering separatist sentiment --> just as we'd look suspiciously at American Irish in NOrthern Ireland during the troubles.
17 posted on 04/11/2008 8:54:23 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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