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To: Enchante; AnotherUnixGeek; ARCADIA
I find it extremely curious that Obambi would have found his way to Pakistan in that era.... WHY? Who or what brought him there? Pakistan was not anywhere on the travel agenda of any of my fellow hippy-dippy student travelers who longed to explore Europe, Africa, Latin America, east Asia, Australia and New Zealand, and India/Nepal.

I also traveled to Pakistan in the 80's, did Lahor and then the Karakoram Highway route thru the tribal area (I know, it's almost impossible to imagine doing something like that today without a death wish, but it wasn't that long ago when the people weren't so radicalized and frontier Pakistan was, perhaps a bit off the beaten path, but still very do-able trip either on your own or with a guided tour) , great scenary, some of the most wild and beautiful places on earth.

74 posted on 04/07/2008 1:22:52 PM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: Republican Party Reptile

Me too. Same same in reverse. 1987. Kashgar -> Gilgit over the Kharakoram (Sp?) Pass. Awesome!


78 posted on 04/07/2008 1:47:45 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Republican Party Reptile

Does Obama hold a second passport that we are not supposed to know about? Could he have traveled of an Indonesian or a Kenyan Passport? He has connections in both places.

http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_Obama/ObamaEducation.htm

Barak Obama (Barry Soetoro), serial number 203. School documents listed Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam.

1968
The “An American Expat in Southeast Asia” blog reports that Obama’s Indonesian schooling began when he was entered into the Roman Catholic, Franciscus Assisi Primary School, in Jakarta, Indonesia, on January 1, 1968 and sat in class 1B. He was registered under the name Barry Soetoro, serial number 203. School documents listed Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam.

Catholic schools accept non-Catholics worldwide. Non-Catholic students are typically excused from religious instruction and ceremony.

1968 Does Obama enjoy dual-citizenship to this day?
1969
Obama enters Class 2 of the Assisi Primary School.

1970
Obama enters Class 3 of the Assisi Primary School.

1971
Obama’s family moves from H Ramir Street to Dempo Street.

1971
Obama enters the Besuki Primary School, a government school. He was enrolled as Barry Soetoro, Muslim.

Iis Darmawan, 63, Obama’s teacher, remembers him as an exceptionally tall and curly haired child who quickly picked up the local language and had sharp math skills. “He wrote an essay titled, ‘I Want To Become President,’” the teacher said.

His third grade teacher, Fermina Katarina Sinaga, now 67, asked her class to write an essay titled “My dream: What I want to be in the future.” Obama wrote “I want to be a President,” she said.

Obama’s sister Maya, has also said, “There was always a joke between my mom and Barack that he would be the first black president.”

Ten years old and already he wants to be president? Over and over, he expresses his desire to become president.

It is an underlying theme throughout his life.

1971
All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school.

He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.

In his autobiography, “Dreams From My Father,” Obama mentions studying the Quran and describes the public school as “a Muslim school.”

“In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies.”

According to Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama’s teachers and the principal from 1971 through 1989, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school. His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency.

“I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” Tine said.

Our guy in Jakarta writes: “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”

“The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going to come out of the closet.”

“As I’ve stated before, the evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such.”

The Obama Campaign told the LA Times he wasn’t a “practicing Muslim.”
(3/14/2007)

But his official website says: “Obama Has Never Been A Muslim, And Is a Committed Christian” (11/12/2007)

This is the basic problem with Obama — his dissimulation.


83 posted on 04/07/2008 2:22:04 PM PDT by WellyP (How much does Huma know?)
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To: Republican Party Reptile

You didn’t happen to see Barrack and Osama sittting down at the coffee house smoking a strange pipe together and planning the future did you?


84 posted on 04/07/2008 2:26:24 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Republican Party Reptile
Reptile - I so envy you - I have always wanted to visit the Karakorams since I read Lost Horizon. If it were at all safe, I would want to go today.

Obama's mom just took her kids sightseeing in one of the most the beautiful parts of the world. As to why she was there in the first place, I agree with the poster who commented that she seemed to be everwhere except raising her children.

Freepers can get silly some times, they give Obama too much credit, IMHO. Some sort of sleeper cell member, all the way back from the 80s. He was just backpacking with his eccentric Mom.

90 posted on 04/07/2008 9:30:59 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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