Looking for the New Baghdad (Iraqis pray for McCain victory)

Time ^ | Apr. 03, 2008 | Bobby Ghosh

[do the dhue]

The Baghdadis caught between these extremes know that the only thing standing in the way of another sectarian conflagration is the U.S. military. This may explain why every Iraqi who offers me a view on American politics seems to be praying for a McCain victory.

[do the dhue]

LOL

[do the dhue]

Maybe Rumsfeld is surprised too. I love Rumy, but he stuck to his guns on this for to long.

[Onelifetogive]

Pathological liars want Hillary.

Although they say they don't...

[Leisler]

That is what education is for in our country. Democrat run indoctrination camps. Most people require years of edjamkation in order to be so constantly and pitifully stupid.

There should be bumper stickers that say, “If You Are A Democrat, Blame A Teacher.”

[Grunthor]

(Iraqis pray for McCain victory)

They must not have heard that he wishes to occupy their nation for 100 years.

[Grunthor]

Iraqis want McCain.

Muzzl’ems want Obama.

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What’re Iraqui’s, Presbyterian?

[r-q-tek86]

I would like to hear your take. Do you hear the same sentiment in your little corner of the city?

[ARE SOLE]

Well, I’m never going to be a democrat voter, but can someone please explain to me what is so mind blowing about the concept of a surge? Are there really people out there that are surprised when a drastic increase in the numbers of troops brings increased security?

I have never seen you post before but, well said! The way some people talk (like McCain himself.) you'd think Mccain had grabbed an M4 rifle and cleared Sadr City alone.

He was for more troops. What a mental giant. Who'da thunk it? Why didn't Petraeus think of that? Oh wait, he did.

See you on the threads LauranD. Good post.

[do the dhue]

And there is a statement taken out of context to benefit the demoratic party. McCain was simply saying that we are in Germany sixty years later and Korea fifty years later and that we could be in Iraq for the next 100 years. He was just pointing out that we have been in other countries for some time and the same could occur in Iraq. But people are going to take it out of context for their benefit.

What I would like to see is this:

If a demoratic candidate pulls our Troops out prematurely, Hillaryious or Hussein should promise the following:

Millions will not be murdered like what happened in Cambodia, Laos, and South Vietnam after we pulled out there.

Iran and/or Syria will not come in and oppress the Iraqi people.

al qeada will not come in and build terrorist training camps that we will have to go back and dig out after another tragic incident occurs in the US.

The terrorist will not look at a pull out as a victory and use this as a platform to recruit for their cause.

We should have taken care of Saddam Hussein after he invaded Kuwait (and remember that we did not sign a peace treaty with Saddam. We signed a cease fire agreement and he defied it). We should have done it right the first time. We need to do this right now, so we don't ever have to go back again.

[Defiant]

A small footprint would have worked better with a patriotic press and without state department bungling. Bush should have given up the small footprint when he let Powell run Iraq instead of Rumsfeld.

[do the dhue]

Well, Rumsfeld didn't want us to be seen as an occupier. An increase in Troops could have been taken this way by the Iraqi people. The Dems were calling for a pull out, as they still do today. Then there were few folks in Washington who thought that an increase in Troop level would do the job. McCain stood up for this even while Rumsfeld opposed it. I remember when this occurred, I was behind Rumsfeld. I wanted McCain to sit down and shut up. I am glad he stood up for the right idea. It does take some courage to go against the tide. If I am not mistaken, some of the Generals were calling for more Troops. If true, at least this shows that McCain will listen to the commanders on the ground. I believe this would be a lesson learned from Vietnam. It is apparent that Rumsfeld and I missed that lesson and maybe it took someone who was there to understand it better.

[GVnana]

The Baghdadis caught between these extremes know that the only thing standing in the way of another sectarian conflagration is the U.S. military. This may explain why every Iraqi who offers me a view on American politics seems to be praying for a McCain victory.

Unless Americans have a major change of heart about maintaining a substantial and aggressive military presence in Iraq, all the gains of the past year will amount to nothing.

Says it all.

[do the dhue]

I concur that the press should have never been allowed in Iraq. I can understand the small footprint idea. It does make some sense, but frankly it does not work because we are in the heart of the middle east. This is a place that for the most part, hates our guts. We almost have to be everywhere in Iraq to secure it.

I really wish the British would not have buckled at the knees and pulled out of Southern Iraq. We may need another surge there one day. But I am hearing that the Iraqi Army is doing a decent job. So, maybe we can secure the place without the British and we will not need another surge. I know if Bush is President a surge will be an option on the table. If McCain is President, I am confident of the same, but let Hillaryious or Hussein be President and you can count on big trouble.

[do the dhue]

I hear that.

[Squantos]

Agree ..... McPain is an idiot in my book but is the lesser than option in this race ....again.

To allow these two socialist rats to gain power is too repeat the killing fields of Laos, Cambodia, the ethnic cleansing of Bosnia / Kosovo, Rwanda etc when they pull the plug on anti terrorist forces sided with the US and the rest of the free world.......we can’t allow such to happen or we abandon all the efforts and sacrifices made by our servicemen and women, their families, friends and the Iraqi’s who helped us destroy Sadassed Insanes Murder Inc.

Just my opinion of course........Stay Safe !

[Grunthor]

McCain was simply saying that we are in Germany sixty years later and Korea fifty years later and that we could be in Iraq for the next 100 years. He was just pointing out that we have been in other countries for some time and the same could occur in Iraq.

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I don’t care to have troops in any of those nations for one more day.

[Grunthor]

“We need to do this right now, so we don’t ever have to go back again.”

When exactly does “doing it right” end? Iraq is quickly becoming one of our longer wars, I see no end on the horizon anyway. Continuously using it as a political issue is beginning to get old and the people of this nation, the ones that haven’t lost interest altogether have begun wondering why the heck our troops were sent to Iraq in the first place....? I guess after 5 years of this...I mean, friggin’ Iraq? We’re STILL there, STILL fighting...FIVE YEARS LATER???? Did anyone else really expect this?

Iraq?

[ARE SOLE]

I agree with the sentiment of your post but there wasn’t much risk in being for the surge. General Patreaus had already proven the principles were sound with the 101st airborne in Mosul. Lots of troops and hearts and minds.

As for Rummey missing the boat that doesn’t mean McCain is McPatton all of a sudden.

Regards

[Right Wing Assault]

What’re Iraqui’s, Presbyterian?

Enlightened.

[do the dhue]

It is simple and I will tell you the same thing I tell every demorat who states ‘what does victory mean’?

When the Iraqi government can govern themselves. It would be an irresponsible act to go into Iraq and flip their government over and leave. It is a responsible act to help them back on their feet and give them hope and a future.

When the Iraqi military can protect themselves from threats foreign and domestic. It would be an irresponsible act to go into Iraq and destroy their military and allow a regime like Iran to roll in without a fight and take it over. Or worse yet, allow a terrorist group to take over (see the Afghanistan/russian war and the taliban).

Like it or not, we are there. I don't know about you, but I supported going into Iraq. Good, bad, or indifferent I have not wavered, falter, or failed. A lot of us voted to go into Iraq. And just because you quit fighting, does not mean your enemy will. And it is tough times that never last. Only tough people do. Belly up to the bar now, because we own the repsonibility to give those people hope and a future. And that is something Iran, and Syria, and al qeada can never do.