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Gas Prices Soar as Refiners Cut Production
venturacountystar.com ^ | April 5, 2008 | John Wilen

Posted on 04/06/2008 11:05:38 AM PDT by kellynla

NEW YORK — Retail gas prices surged to another milestone, rising above $3.30 a gallon Friday, and appear poised to rise further in coming weeks as supplies tighten.

Oil prices, meanwhile, supported the gas price rally by jumping more than $2 a barrel after a dismal employment report sent the dollar lower.

At the pump, gas prices rose 1.4 cents overnight to a national average of $3.303 a gallon, according to AAA and the Oil Price Information Service. That's the latest in a series of records, and about 60 cents higher than a year ago.

In Ventura County, the average price of regular unleaded hit a record $3.68 a gallon Friday, according to the Automobile Club of Southern California.

During the past week, prices in the county have been climbing by a few cents per day.

A few weeks ago, Jack Kyser, chief economist of the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corp., said he expected prices to fall as oil speculators backed off.

Now, he's not so sure.

"We could very likely see $4," he said. "It's going to be painful."

As investors are fleeing to commodities such as oil, gold, wheat and corn, people are starting to look at Washington, D.C., to curb speculation, Kyser said.

"You have speculators globally now," Kyser said.

"This is going to be a tough time for anybody who has to use an oil-based product. We've already seen chaos in the aviation industry, with Aloha and ATA going out of business."

While oil's surge above $100 over the past month has boosted gas prices so far this year, analysts now expect gas prices to continue rising regardless of what direction crude takes. The Energy Department expects prices to peak near $3.50 a gallon later in the spring, but many analysts predict that the spike could approach $4.

That's because gasoline supplies are falling, in part because producers are cutting back on output of the fuel because of the high cost of crude — the more expensive crude is, the more refiners have to pay and the lower their profits are.

They're also in the process of switching from producing winter grades of gasoline to the less polluting but more expensive grade of fuel required in the summer.

"That cuts back on some of the supply and helps to pump up the price," said Mike Pina, spokesman for AAA.

The margin between the price that refiners pay for crude and receive for selling the products they make from it is about $11 to $12 a barrel right now, according to the Oil Price Information Service.

However, that margin has occasionally slipped into negative territory in recent weeks and is well below margins of $37 a barrel that refiners earned last spring.

In futures trading, meanwhile, oil futures rose Friday after the Labor Department said employers cut payrolls by 80,000 jobs last month, much more than analysts had expected.

The unemployment rate rose to 5.1 percent.

That news sent the dollar lower and pushed light, sweet crude for May delivery up $2.40 to settle at $106.23 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Gasoline futures for May delivery rose 3.24 cents to settle at $2.7567 a gallon.

Gasoline futures were also boosted Friday by a fire that shut down part of a refinery in Torrance.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: crude; energy; gasoline; gasprices; refiners; refinery
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To: RandallFlagg

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41 posted on 04/06/2008 12:35:00 PM PDT by petercooper (Sure, Americans don't want Muslims running a couple U.S. ports, but they're fine with a Muslim Prez.)
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To: papasmurf
Would you format those for printing, and post at a download site for us?

I'm at work now and can when I get home. Which site would you suggest I use? I haven't done that for quite some time and all of the old sites I used are gone.
42 posted on 04/06/2008 12:36:00 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: kellynla
What we need now is the creation of a new federal dept which will employ tens of trillions of brain dead gummn’t employees distributing umpteen billion new regulations which will ect. ect. ect..............sigh
43 posted on 04/06/2008 12:37:50 PM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: tatown
I visit two small refineries in Los Angeles about a month ago that were both shut down due to horrible crack spreads.

Drugs are a blight on America.

44 posted on 04/06/2008 12:39:47 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I’ll retract the rape complaint from the wombat, because he’s pulled out. Now I speak Australian.)
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To: Cicero

“This is caused almost entirely by leftie environmentalists”

100% right. Take a closer look at the situations they cause. You will quickly understand their impact on middle east and other world conflicts. They want to “save the planet” by destroying civilized society. At least for everybody but themselves.


45 posted on 04/06/2008 12:43:49 PM PDT by hdstmf
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To: hdstmf
We see the same thing with our lousy congress folks call oil barons on the carpet. All we get are insults to our intelligence.

Considering that from the price meltdown in 98-99 as the result of an erroneous EIA report which anticipated a worldwide glut of oil (somehow they forgot Asia), the stripper wells which were plugged, the obstruction of drilling at every turn by Federal, state agencies and legislatures, I'd say the congress investigating the "oil barons" is about like a group of muggers investigating why the victim wasn't carrying enough money to buy them all a steak dinner and drinks afterward.

Government is the problem, not the solution.

How come the magnanimous Congress hasn't cut their chunk of the pie? They took in a bunch on fuel taxes without ever risking a dime of their or their stockholders' money.

46 posted on 04/06/2008 12:44:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Cobra64
Hell, why not just pull the plug, shut down all the refineries, and let the pencil necks in Washington and Sacramento operate the refineries.

LOL! Then there'd be a firefighter shortage...

47 posted on 04/06/2008 12:46:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: RandallFlagg

If you do them up, I’ll host them for you on my ftp.

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48 posted on 04/06/2008 12:48:08 PM PDT by papasmurf (WWOD? (What Would Obama Do?))
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To: RandallFlagg

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49 posted on 04/06/2008 12:49:41 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Oatka

To bad 80 percent of the vehicles nowadays are not even high enough to crawl under, let alone put a 5 gallon gas can under it.

Again, if prices continue to rise, syphoning fuel crimes will be the least of our worries.


50 posted on 04/06/2008 12:50:05 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Cobra64

“I think this is the time of year when refineries have to shut down to switch over to, what I call, the “Summer Flavor” of gasoline to satisfy the EPA and state regulations.”

I think you’re right but, although refiners were blamed in the headline, did you see your explanation anywhere in the story? Yep, those greedy refiners just cut production for capricious unknown reasons.


51 posted on 04/06/2008 12:50:35 PM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: RandallFlagg

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52 posted on 04/06/2008 12:58:00 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: RandallFlagg

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53 posted on 04/06/2008 12:59:17 PM PDT by bmwcyle (McCain has yet to give conservatives a reason to vote for him)
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To: dragnet2

Two words..

Gas Riots.

Gas is the new bread..


54 posted on 04/06/2008 1:04:28 PM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: rabidralph
It would be nice if the republican “leadership” highlighted and pounded this point instead of suggesting alternative energy subsidies.

Amen to that. I don't think the likes of McCain & Gingrich understand that the common sense of it would resonate with many voters. Lowering gas prices by developing more domestic production and refinery helps all Americans. Convincing everyone of a lie about how we are putting the planet in peril helps no Americans except those who profit from foolish businesses and politcal fear mongering. You would think a so called common sense "maverick" like McCain, could see the simple truth. I hope McCain sees the light eventually. At least he might, where the two Democrats will never.
55 posted on 04/06/2008 1:04:40 PM PDT by TimPatriot
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To: RandallFlagg
Those are great

Can you post them in a readable/printable format?

Thanks

I'd like to tape them on every gas pump within 3.7k miles

56 posted on 04/06/2008 1:04:46 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: kellynla

It makes me so happy to the the price of gasoline rising—I’m invested in it.

Federal Reserve can pull out all of the financial stops and play all of the games they want. They can fudge the inflation rates, print tons of money and bail out banks that make bad business decisions. But none of these games creates useful things like gasoline, wheat or oil. It makes me laugh to think off all of the poor people that vote for Democrats who won’t let us do anything to add supply and bring down energy prices. It will be funny to watch them need to decide between food and gasoline when a loaf a bread is $8 and a gallon of gas is $10.


57 posted on 04/06/2008 1:09:53 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: rednesss
All this talk of domestic drilling is slight of hand to misdirect our attention at what is truly causing the price of energy to skyrocket, the systematic dismantling of the value of our $$$$dollar, and rabid speculation on the commodities exchanges.

That's pretty much the point of another article posted here. Although everything that's been mentioned so far in this thread(no more drilling, too many blends, regulations, etc) is a factor, imo; it's the declining dollar and more importantly the rabid speculation of commodities that are the big two factors.

From the other article:

"As for the speculators, in 2000 approximately $9 billion was invested in oil futures, while today that number has gone up to $250 billion. Now, if any publicly traded company had an additional $241 billion put into its stock in the same period, its stock would rise out of sight too—even if the company was not worth anywhere near that amount of market capitalization."

I ask again like I asked in that other thread. What's going to be the catalyst to get this futures market bubble to burst? It's long overdue.
58 posted on 04/06/2008 1:13:14 PM PDT by Thoro (Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.)
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To: bmwcyle; Syncro; TLI; papasmurf; All

WOW! I had no idea there were so many here interested.

I get home from work tonight at about 19:30 Mountain Time. I’ll take care of all of you then when I get to my home PC with the file.
Thanks!


59 posted on 04/06/2008 1:19:41 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: kellynla

Not every Californian is responsible for the problem, but the state government is deeply responsible. They started the whole gasoline additive business, and the stricter pollution standards, and they have prevented companies from producing enough energy in state, so they rely on neighboring states for their power. No new refineries or power plants, no drilling offshore, and then blame some company in Texas for overcharging them.

Other states have followed California’s example, but they took the lead.


60 posted on 04/06/2008 1:20:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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