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To: J Aguilar; InABunkerUnderSF
"Then Franco's troops invaded and began to systematically execute all mayors, town councilmen, union leaders, anybody who was denounced by anybody who owned a blue shirt (Spanish blood feuds can go back a long time) and oh yes, almost of anybody they captured who had a bruise on their right shoulder."

I'll give credit where it's due. This quote came from InaBunkerUnderSF. Not that I necessarily disagree.

"Unlike countries like America, the UK and France, were Freemasons formed some kind of patriotic society; in Spain their objectives were disruptive with the past and with the public interest at such a level that constituted a danger for the mere existence of the Nation."

Just so everyone understands, in a European context, political rants against "Freemasons" can be roughly translated as "Jew lovers." Typically they were listed together as "Jews and Freemasons," meaning, "Jews and Jew lovers." It's equivalent in today's world to people who carp endlessly against "neo-cons." All code words for antisemitism.

And concerns for "Freemasons" grew out of the French Revolution, long before "Jewish Bolshevism" was even conceived of.

The real difference between European & American Freemasons (and btw, I'm not one, so only speak from what I've read) was that in America, masons lead the Revolutionary War effort, beginning with George Washington. And yes, from the beginning,they were friendly to Jews, and received support from Jews.

32 posted on 04/12/2008 3:47:00 AM PDT by BroJoeK (A little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
Through Franco's Spain, +50,000 Jews saved their lifes during the Second World War. Not said on InaBunkerUnderSF?

General Franco did not retaliate on Spanish diplomats who helped Jews, as the Portuguese government did.

It hasn't to do with antisemite issues: conservative Jews praise Franco.

Moreover, the damaging role of Freemasons in Spanish history is portrayed by renowned writters, such as Pérez-Galdós (El Grande Oriente, Episodios Nacionales, which you can download from internet.)

In Italy, prominent Freemasons were found guilty of manipulating the investigation of the Bologna massacre, the attack on which 3/11 was based.

Those are the facts. General Franco then and we today have our reasons to mistrust Spanish Freemasons, which does not mean that every Freemason is to blame.
33 posted on 04/13/2008 1:51:25 AM PDT by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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