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To: Albion Wilde
Too bad this wasn't one of those times. Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God and was borne by a virgin.

How does Jesus Mother family history deny Jesus still being the ONLY Begotten Son of Heavenly Father, as far as I know there has never has been another Son...

829 posted on 04/07/2008 10:07:13 AM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

Too bad this wasn’t one of those times. Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God and was borne by a virgin.

How does Jesus Mother family history deny Jesus still being the ONLY Begotten Son of Heavenly Father, as far as I know there has never has been another Son...
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But Jesus is NOT the ONLY Begotten Son of “Heavenly Father” in the flesh..

Jeus is the only begotten Son of THE Father, but God did NOT have sex with Mary..

Mary did not have sex with a mortal man or an “immortal” man (or god) in order to get pregnant/conceive

And this following junk from the mormons is just that...JUNK...
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“Father as Literal Parent”

Scriptures embodying the ordinary signification-literally that of Parent-are too numerous and specific to require citation. The purport of these scriptures is to the effect that God the Eternal Father, whom we designate by the exalted name-title “Elohim,” is the literal Parent of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and of the spirits of the human race.

Jesus Christ is the Son of Elohim both as spiritual and bodily offspring; that is to say, Elohim is literally the Father of the spirit of Jesus Christ and also of the body in which Jesus Christ performed His mission in the flesh, and which body died on the cross and was afterward taken up by the process of resurrection, and is now the immortalized tabernacle of the eternal spirit of our Lord and Savior. No extended explanation of the title “Son of God” as applied to Jesus Christ appears necessary. (The Father and The Son: A Doctrinal Exposition by the First Presidency and the Twelve.)

One of the great questions that I have referred to that the world is concerned about, and is in confusion over, is as to whether or not his was a virgin birth, a birth wherein divine power interceded. Joseph Smith made it perfectly clear that Jesus Christ told the absolute truth, as did those who testify concerning him, the Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ, wherein he is declared to be the very Son of God. And if God the Eternal Father is not the real Father of Jesus Christ, then are we in confusion; then is he not in reality the Son of God. But we declare that he is the Only Begotten of the Father in the flesh.
Mary told the story most beautifully when she said that an angel of the Lord came to her and told her that she had found favor in the sight of God, and had come to be worthy of the fulfilment of the promises heretofore made, to become the virgin mother of the Redeemer of the world. She afterwards, referring to the event, said: “God hath done wonderful things unto me.” “And the Holy Ghost came upon her,” is the story, “and she came into the presence of the highest.” No man or woman can live in mortality and survive the presence of the Highest except by the sustaining power of the Holy Ghost. So it came upon her to prepare her for admittance into the divine presence, and the power of the Highest, who is the Father, was present, and overshadowed her, and the holy Child that was born of her was called the Son of God.
Men who deny this, or who think that it degrades our Father, have no true conception of the sacredness of the most marvelous power with which God has endowed mortal men-the power of creation. Even though that power may be abused and may become a mere harp of pleasure to the wicked, nevertheless it is the most sacred and holy and divine function with which God has endowed man. Made holy, it is retained by the Father of us all, and in his exercise of that great and marvelous creative power and function, he did not debase himself, degrade himself, nor debauch his daughter. Thus Christ became the literal Son of a divine Father, and no one else was worthy to be his father. (Melvin Ballard, LDS Apostle)


835 posted on 04/07/2008 10:25:40 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Now who is Jesus Christ, and how could he bring about the resurrection when no other man nor all men put together could do so? The Scriptures respond to these questions. They make it clear that the spirit person Jesus Christ-as are the spirits of all men-is the Son of God, our Eternal Father. In this respect he is like all other men. He differs from all other men, however, by reason of the fact that men’s bodies are begotten of mortal men and are, therefore, subject to death, being descendants and inheritors from Adam, while Christ’s physical body was begotten of God, our Heavenly Father-an immortal being not subject to death. Christ, therefore, inherited from his Father the faculty to live on indefinitely. CR1975Apr:123-24 (Apostle Marion G. Romney to the General Conference of the LDS Church, 1975)


837 posted on 04/07/2008 10:27:18 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

How does Jesus Mother family history deny Jesus still being the ONLY Begotten Son of Heavenly Father, as far as I know there has never has been another Son...
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Noooooooooooooooooo

The mormons claim there are lots of them...

“The answer is found in the fact that of all the sons of God, only Christ could qualify, because he was the only sinless man who ever walked the earth. Furthermore, he was the First Begotten, the eldest of the sons of God in the spirit, and the Only Begotten in the flesh, and therefore the only one who possessed the full powers of Godhood and manhood.” (Conference address by Hugh B. Brown in 1962)


839 posted on 04/07/2008 10:31:50 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

How does Jesus Mother family history deny Jesus still being the ONLY Begotten Son of Heavenly Father, as far as I know there has never has been another Son...
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The mormon leaders claim that the mormon “god” was the “sire” of Jesus...

“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints proclaims that Jesus Christ is the Son of God in the most literal sense. The body in which He performed His mission in the flesh was sired by that same Holy Being we worship as God, our Eternal Father. Jesus was not the son of Joseph nor was He begotten by the Holy Ghost. He is the son of the Eternal Father! (President of the Quorum of the Twelve, Ezra Taft Benson)


841 posted on 04/07/2008 10:35:32 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Now this one is strange..

“Mormons differ from other Christians in our literal belief that we are begotten of God spiritually and that Christ was begotten of him physically. Paul says in Acts that we are God’s offspring (17:28-29). We believe that our spiritual conception was sexual just as we believe that Christ’s mortal conception was. Elucidating the latter, James E. Talmage says, “That child to be born of Mary was begotten of Elohim the Eternal Father, not in violation of natural law, but in accordance with a higher manifestation thereof” (1986, 81).”(Robert A. Rees, Bishop of the Los Angeles First Ward in a sacrament meeting talk on April 29th, 1990, entitled “Bearing Our Crosses Gracefully: Sex and the Single Mormon.”)


842 posted on 04/07/2008 10:39:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
How does Jesus Mother family history deny Jesus still being the ONLY Begotten Son of Heavenly Father, as far as I know there has never has been another Son...

As many others have tried to explain to you, the biological components of a human being are different from human acts of will. The fact that some of Mary's ancestors may or may not have practiced polygamy could not possibly affect the single egg she may possibly have released to engender the Messiah; or it is also possible the entire embryo was implanted by the Holy Spirit. Either way, the actions of forebearers are not transmitted by genetics.

Polygamy is an act of will that in this thread is of concern because it involves underage children and incest. Polygamy is a behavior, not a genetic trait that can be transferred from generation to generation biologically.

880 posted on 04/07/2008 11:36:19 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.—WChurchill)
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