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To: fuzzthatwuz; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; ...
Doing the math, the child has an “approximately’ eight month old son. Calculating normal human gestation of nine months this infers that she was roughly 14.5 years when she became pregnant. Pretty damn hard to ignore, especially after she notified authorities of her situation.

Correct.

I lived in Waco during the Koresh situation. I believe the Texas authorities have acted to avoid giving this situation a chance to turn into another Waco.

All these children are now unavailable to be used as pawns as were the Branch Davidian children, and while I'm sure this is a traumatizing event for them, it beats the heck out of being burned alive, or fed poison-laced KoolAid. If CPS had done their job at Waco and removed those kids much earlier things might have been different.

There will be outraged cries at the "defilement" of the FLDS temple, but it cannot now be used as a fortress filled with children during a siege, and there can be a "cleansing" of the building later.

If Utah and Arizona authorities had been doing their jobs during the past 50 years, this cancer would not have been able to spread into Texas in the first place.

44 posted on 04/06/2008 6:49:15 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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As I recall, Arizona Republican Governor, Howard Pyle, cooperated in the “Short Creek” raid on FLDS in the Arizona strip. This was in the 1950’s and the upshot was that Pyle’s political career was over and the fundamentalists were know but “off limits” thereafter. Public reaction to enforcing such laws dealing with religious beliefs has always been skeptical.


148 posted on 04/06/2008 9:07:08 AM PDT by JimSEA
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There’s only one problem with your premise about Waco. The department of children’s services down there testified that they could find no evidence of any children being abused, and they did interview children at the farm.

This statement was made after the main building was burned to the ground with all the children in it.

It will be interesting to see how many cases of child abuse get filed and prosecuted all the way through to a verdict successfully. My guess is that none of them will.

Unless the laws have been changed, a child can get married in Texas with parental consent at the age of 14. I may not like it. You may not like it. The state of Texas may not like it. The problem is, how do you prove that:

1. Parental Consent was not given
2. The female did not consent at the time out of a firm belief in the culture of the collective
3. That the kid at 16 didn’t have a change of heart or get angry and choose to get even with someone

It seems to me that this is going to be a tough nut to crack even after the massive disruption law enforcement imposed on the people at this farm.

We’ve got the same old misinformation going on with this case. This is not a cult. This is not a compound. This is a farm with a number of structures on it and the people there are not necessarily demons.

We’ll see how this plays out, but I AM NOT impressed by this massive show of force to accomplish an investigation that would in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and other cities be handled with professionalism and a minimum of ghestapo tactics.

What is it about Texas and these massive operations? Do they operate under a different Constitution down there?


171 posted on 04/06/2008 9:24:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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has the single issue posse arrived yet?


339 posted on 04/06/2008 10:42:22 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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“If Utah and Arizona authorities had been doing their jobs during the past 50 years, this cancer would not have been able to spread into Texas in the first place.”

I agree. In light of this prior criminal activity, is it legally possible for a state, such as Texas, to prevent cults or other undesirables from buying property within said state?

398 posted on 04/06/2008 11:28:50 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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If Utah and Arizona authorities had been doing their jobs during the past 50 years, this cancer would not have been able to spread into Texas in the first place. <<<

You are correct.

I live in Mohave County Arizona, the same county as the Jeff’s cult , has been in for years.

I am not keeping up to date on the cult, I do know that they are not Mormons [LDS].

For many years the Mohave County Sheriff’s deputy in that town, was a member of the cult, with more than one wife.

As I recall a series of articles in the Kingman Daily Miner, it was decided that the deputies were only breaking a misdemeanor law.

People here and teachers have complained about them for years and nothing is done.


734 posted on 04/07/2008 5:25:50 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: greyfoxx39

So did I..good post.


2,773 posted on 04/13/2008 1:46:13 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military)
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