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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem

Wrong subject!

Many here want to deny the interaction the Jehovah had with man on earth.

further none here know completely all the trantsanction that have taken place on earth.

There is Enoch who also had records and we have very little account of this exceptional servant.

Moses gave a recap but there is more to come forth in the Lord’s own due time.

So many cases and events are not totally know what took place so the the books on so many events is not closed yet!


2,554 posted on 04/11/2008 8:35:38 PM PDT by restornu ( Pandora's box is being unleashed)
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To: restornu

The Ethiopian Coptic Church kept Enoch in their canon when Rome banned it after 300 years of NT history, during which time it was quoted much by early Believers and called Scripture by some of them.
From the Ethiopian Coptic Church, copies of Enoch were got and were bought to England in the late 1700’s, and translated to English in the early 1800’s.
It is available to read online @ http://www.ccel.org/c/charles/otpseudepig/enoch/ENOCH_1.HTM
But the English translation is outdated and needs to be updated to today’s English, from the Ethiopian.
Copies of it were found in the Qumram caves in the 1940’s, by which it is proved to pre-date the NT by three hundred years, at least: but Jude credits it to Enoch, and Jesus quotes it very much, about Himself as the Son of Man who was in heaven, who was to come, and is come -and shall come- who was with God and who was God, who was hidden, from the beginning, until the time of His revealing [as the Lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world].

Jesus also refers to the doctrines laid down in Enoch 1 as facts not to be disputed; like the everlasting Abyss of fire, and hell beneath earth, and the wrath to come [from which all in Adam are called to escape from, in this age of the Church, by His acceptable Atonement for all men, offered once, for all]; and the complete removal of all the godless and wicked at His return to reign, even the removal of the tares, explained in Enoch as the disembodied spirits of the nephillim, called foul spirits roaming earth tormenting and afflicting, deceiving and seducing Adamkind until the angels gather them at the return of Jesus can cast them into the Abyss.

Also: the true Book of Jasher has been translated into English for hundreds of years, and is also available at ccel.org.

Between the historical records of the chronicles of the tribes of Adam as recorded through the millennia and kept by the descendents of Shem, through Abraham and Isaac, called the Book of the Upright =Jasher, and the prophesies of the book of Enoch 1 [the true Enoch, as there are false Enoch’s which contradict OT and NT], which was quoted by Jesus Christ and all the NT authors, all false religions are totally refuted. -and the OT and NT as we have them and have had them from the beginning, are confirmed.

Enoch saw the Holy One in heaven, and shows us that Jesus Christ was, from the beginning, that Son of Man who was in heaven; who was with God and who was God, who was hidden [seen by Enoch as the alter ego/another same self, of the Great Glory, the Head/Ancient of days, on the throne in the created temple in the created heaven], but who was to come, in flesh [Romans 5:14], and in whose image Adam is made, and who made all things as the Word/Oath of God, and upholds all things and who is the appointed judge of angels and men, and who is the only Person in the One Triune YHWH who was, is, and shall be seen, from eternity past -everlasting- to everlasting.
Enoch refutes all false religions about the Person and work of “the Son of Man who was in heaven”, from the beginning, who is YHWH, and who made all things, who is now come in the flesh of second creation human being kind, and who is the only living Son of God of the human kind, come to be the Kinsman/Redeemer to Adam and to ransom the lost inheritance given to Adam, former son of God human kind [at creation, before the fall; Luke 3:38] to rule.


2,581 posted on 04/12/2008 2:38:09 AM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: restornu
So many cases and events are not totally know what took place so the the books on so many events is not closed yet!

Translation:

"I will believe ANYTHING if someone tells me GOD is in it."

2,592 posted on 04/12/2008 5:08:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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