To: Colofornian
A truly disingenuous post, next you'll hold a seance and tell us the answers came from beyond the grave, I could just as easily manipulate the scriptures to get opposite answers to just as carefully worded questions to make sure Abraham was indeed polygamous, but it boils down to do the scriptures actually say Hagar was Abraham's wife anywhere?
A. Yes
End of story, thanks for playing.
I also find it interesting that you guys seem to have no problem with Abraham being a man who would sleep with the "help", and take concubines (basically having a girlfriend, or a woman on the side from how it's been described here) over him lawfully having more than one wife.
Abraham was a righteous man, which is more in keeping with that statement? "sleeping around", or the "Lawful wife"?
I'm not exactly sure why you guys feel that way, but that is in effect what you are saying when you go this route.
Is adultery preferable to polygamy? Is it better to rape a slave (sex against her will is rape) and force her to bear your child better than to marry her?
Stop this madness, stop insisting that such sin was approved of by God, for in truth such was never the case.
2,215 posted on
04/10/2008 2:05:30 PM PDT by
DelphiUser
("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
To: DelphiUser
Abraham was a righteous man, which is more in keeping with that statement? Who lied at least TWICE to save his OWN butt from getting killed - gave his FIRST wife AWAY to others.
DOUBTED what GOD had told him; which was obvious by going along with the wild idea that SARAH thought up:"Take my handmaiden and nail her!"
2,218 posted on
04/10/2008 2:26:20 PM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: DelphiUser
“but it boils down to do the scriptures actually say Hagar was Abraham’s wife anywhere?”
She was just a sleepover, at Sarah’s insistence.
She became a reject, also, as a sleepover, because Sarah said to send her away. If Abraham was considered married to Hagar, as a second wife, then Abraham was a divorced man, and monogamous, after YHWH said to Abraham; “listen to Sarah, and send Hagar away”!
So to claim Abraham was married is to admit that Abraham was then divorced! -They can’t have it both ways.
Then, after Sarah died, Abraham took another wife, Keturah, and fathered six sons by her. But Abraham was monogamous even then.
LDS has no biblical support for polygamy for the priesthood, either, as the priests were under strict rules for marraige -all of which rules the LDS founders themselves broke to pieces while claiming a priesthood for themselves, which is non-existent in the Word of God.
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