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I Said: Jacob had the option as soon as he discovered the deception to repudiate her and annul the marriage, he did not.

I Said: In a culture where virginity is everything to a young woman, no, you don't just throw a mature fish back into the water...especially if you're trying to be a man of God and not convert such a woman into a permanent "unmarry-able" woman.

I live in such a culture (Mormons value Chastity in women) and I am sure I would have noticed if my wife had been "Swapped" out before she lost her virginity. This argument is silly what he had sex with her before he knew who she was? Get real.

I Said: With modern-day surrogacy, the husband doesn’t have to sleep with the surrogate.

The Scripture in question says Wife, get over it, Abraham also had concubines, (A wife without as many rights) get over that too while you are at it.

Either the bible means what it says or it does not Anti Mormons make lots of hay over "as long as it's interpreted correctly", this it is the height of hypocrisy to now insist the word wife does not mean wife but has to be interpreted to mean something besides wife.

denial it's not a river in Egypt...

You go off on a hunt through other scriptures looking for other places she is called Servant, she was both. It's called multiple relationships, we all have them.

you want to talk culture, Abraham needed an heir, children of Concubines could not inherit, bastards could not inherit, it had to be the son born by a wife in order for the male child to be eligible to inherit. Not marrying Hagar would mean there was no point to fathering a child by her. It really sucks when reality won't bend for you doesn't it.

I Said: You have proof of the intents of these men long dead? I thought not. So this is just an undisguised smear.

U Said: Yes I have an LDS citation...won't be able to get around to it til tonight (didn't originate with me).

What, no attribution? IF I had done that you guys would all be calling me a plagiarist!

I Said: Actually, I can show you how I'm related to Abraham, it's in my genealogy, I've followed familial relationships in the Bible, honest.

U Said: (Yeah, yeah, we know...we're sure the apostle John, who is supposedly still out & about on planet earth according to Smith...or perhaps one of the three ancient Nephite disciples...showed up to your door and filled in the blanks on your family tree :) )

Actually, if you can tie into the Plantagenet's (most people can if they work at it a bit), you can then buy the book wtih your genealogy back to Adam. Another way is to tie into a jewish, or any ofthe other twelve tribes (there were some who were left behind) if thy had a diary, which was translated and published as a book (one of our ancestors' was) then you can buy that and ours had her genealogy back to Abraham, the rest is in the Bible, which is fairly easy to come by.

Never met John, or any of the three Nephites ... That I know of :-)