To: MHGinTN
U Said: God Gave David his wives, that means God approved of them, God does not change therefore he still approves of Polygamy. This is a simple point to understand ...
U Said: Youve defended this evil long enough, now.
I am not defending evil, the "males" who did these heinous things to young children should be punished, the physical abuse, mental abuse, sexual abuse, all of it should be punished. would this even be news if the women involved got married when they were thirty? No age is definitely an issue, such "Marriages" are clearly illegal even if they were not polygamous, Such incarceration is illegal, abuse in its many and varied forms as practiced by these Males (I refuse to call them men) is illegal and reprehensible, but it is disingenuous to lump it in with polygamy which is not immoral according to the Bible, and call that Immoral too, you might as well condemn all who drive the same model of truck as these people drove the girls around in.
U Said: It is time you stopped to look at what the obligation of David was when Saul was slain. God did not give David an obligation to raise up children unto Saul thus there was no admonition to have sexual congress with Sauls wives and concubines. Refer to Hebrew Torah/Tenach. David WAS given an obligation to bring these under a household protection rather than turning them out into poverty. Davids sexual congress with them was his sin, not something God ordained.
On this point, we could agree, however, God gave him wives, as you here admit, what about the Wives David married on his own? Were they to live in Coventry as well? Did God or Did God not Command husbands and wives to procreate? Why were so many of the patriarchs in the Bible polygamous? Why were these men still chosen by God to lead his people? Abraham, Moses, Jacob, virtually all the hallowed names in the OT were polygamous, and now you want to tell me it's not biblical, well, show me a scripture that condemns Polygamy, and not the one about divorce, because serial polygamy is practiced today without the blink of an eye, start condemning that, and I might listen about that scripture applying to polygamy where you stay married to your first wife.
Come on MHG, show me a scripture, you should be able to do that, you are obviously highly educated and well read in the scriptures, show me a scripture or admit that I just might have a point.
U Said: You mormonism apologists disgust me sometimes, DU.
Likewise you Mormon Assaulter's, so?
U Said: How can you continue to defend polygamy even in your perverted way with this story glaring at people?
Because it's not the polygamy that was wrong, you guys are assaulting driving because of a drugged up driver who was speeding while driving on the wrong side of the road.
Polygamy is biblical and moral and illegal, Abortion is unbiblical, immoral and legal. Let's not confuse legal with moral, I for one refuse to allow the pack of miscreants we call government decide for me what is moral.
I am prepared to discuss this on logical and reasonable grounds, I will not assume that Law = Morality, in fact I think that often today Law = Immorality, show me a scripture that actually says what you are saying that Polygamy is immoral and I will fold my tent and cross the road, don't and I stand firm, in the support of God's established patterns as I have observed them, regardless of today's societal norms
1,650 posted on
04/09/2008 9:21:37 AM PDT by
DelphiUser
("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
To: DelphiUser
Polygamy is biblical and moral and illegal...
--DelphiUser
1,728 posted on
04/09/2008 12:06:57 PM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: DelphiUser
...show me a scripture that actually says what you are saying that Polygamy is immoral and I will fold my tent and cross the road...
1 Timothy 3:2-3
2. Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
3. not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
1 Timothy 3:12
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
Titus 1:6
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
Bye-bye
1,729 posted on
04/09/2008 12:09:05 PM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: DelphiUser
I cannot take seriously a poster who sstarts his post with a false assertion ... I did not say, God Gave David his wives, that means God approved of them, God does not change therefore he still approves of Polygamy. This is a simple point to understand ...
My disgust level with you is growing to intolerable levels.
1,758 posted on
04/09/2008 1:25:49 PM PDT by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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