Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.Unless they’ve changed the law in Texas, I believe a kid of fourteen can get married with parental consent. Of course that’s providing the child also consents.
Arresting 200 individuals to investigate the marital status of one 16 year old girl, seem like it might just be a little overkill, don’t ya think?
I believe the parenthetical “Fundamentalist LDS-cult” is an inaccurate and unfair association of FLDS with mainline Church of Jesus Christ of LDS.
FLDS is “LDS” in the same way as Fred Phelps is “Baptist” . . . which is to say, not at all.
Site just upgraded. One officer said they found everything the needed and more.
Using this logic, our freedom is in serious jeopardy.
Does the BATF have its flamethrowers ready?
OK, nobody follows the bible the proper way and everyone is apparently going to hell. Now that we have that settled...what is the fate of the blasphemers in the article?
Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.
She bore the child last year. There's a fair chance she was impregnated when she was 14.
This does bear looking into.
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here. Pretty slim if any PC. Waiting for more info.
Congrats on a 1,000 reply post - that’s a landmark around here!
Could somebody contact a mod and have them take the “breaking” off the title.
Interesting book - insiders take on this cult and the lie of polygamy.
Escape (Hardcover)
by Carolyn Jessop (Author), Laura Palmer (Author
Editorial Reviews
From Publishers Weekly
Seventeen years after being forced into a polygamous marriage, Jessop escaped from the cultlike Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints with her eight children. She recounts the horrid events that led her to break free from the oppressive world she knew and how she has managed to survive since escaping, despite threats and legal battles with her husband and the Church. Though sometimes her retelling overflows with colorful foreshadowing and commentary on how exceptional she is, the everyday details she reveals about this polygamous society are devastating and tragic. Frasier delivers Jessop’s words in a soft voice that develops intriguingly from an innocent and naïve tone into a more assertive and self-confident one that mirrors Jessop’s journey. She maintains the same rhythm, but through the inspired words of the text, she really embraces Jessop’s persona. The bonus telephone interview with Jessop on the final disc suffers from poor sound quality and, unfortunately, doesn’t add any new information. Simultaneous release with the Doubleday hardcover.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. —This text refers to the Audio CD edition.
Review
“Escape provides an astonishing look behind the tightly drawn curtains of the FLDS Church, one of the most secretive religious groups in the United States. The story Carolyn Jessop tells is so weird and shocking that one hesitates to believe a sect like this, with 10,000 polygamous followers, could really exist in 21st-century America. But Jessop’s courageous, heart-wrenching account is absolutely factual. This riveting book reminds us that truth can indeed be much, much stranger than fiction.”
—Jon Krakauer, Author of Under the Banner of Heaven, Into Thin Air, and Into the Wild
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As long as it is ok for homosexuals and other sexual deviants to adopt kids, that is really all that matters. Maybe the little boys rounded up by the state can be sent to San Francisco to find a loving and decent home life, or maybe Rosie needs another little girl. SARC
Hello all. Had a few minutes available with nothing much to do, so I thought I would drop in and see what was happening. Wow, 1800+ posts. I see the subject has gotten heavily into a debate about the practice of polygamy, and thought I would toss a few observations in, just for the heck of it.
First, I am a little confused. I was under the impression that most of the mormon members here were LDS, and not FLDS, so I would appreciate a little clarification on that if any of them do not mind. If in fact they are LDS, then I find it peculiar that they are so readily supporting the doctrine of polygamy, which as far as I know, the LDS has repudiated. Of course, I could be wrong, perhaps they did not repudiate it, in which case they have sold out in their convictions, and are living in a manner inconsistent with the teachings of their faith. This does not speak well for those who style themselves as “Saints”.
In any event, I am going to cast my lot in with those who reject notion that polygamy has Biblical authority.
I see it stated that Abraham took more than one wife, but when we read the scriptures, it never mentions anything about Hagar being wed to Abraham... and as we all know, simply having intercourse does not make one automatically wedded, for if it did, the term “adultery” would be meaningless. Further, the Bible has a few things to say about a man and his wife.
In Genesis 2:18, God made one companion for Adam; he did not make several.
In Genesis 2:24 it reads “This is why a man leaves his father and mother and becomes attached to his wife, and they become one flesh.”
I find no allowance for polygamy in that.
I Corinthians 7:2 “every man have his own wife.” Note again the singular “wife”, not plural “wives”.
1 Timothy 3:2, 12 “Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.” (NIV)
So much for what the Bible says about more than one wife. So what does the Book of Mormon have to say?
Jacob 2:27 “Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none.”
And Jacob 2:24 says, “Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.”
I believe that is known as being “hoist by their own petard”. Apparently Mormon doctrine is not even consistent with it’s own “scripture”.
In 1866, the Second President of the Mormons, Brigham Young, supported polygamy and made an interesting comment about it...
“The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of Gods, are those who enter into polygamy.” (Journal of Discourses 11:269).
So, Brigham Young thought men could become Gods. If that is not antithetical to the teachings of the Bible, then nothing is.
Now we have the “ceremonial Bed” discovered in the temple for de-flowering the child brides.
Sorry, but had he become the nominee, Mitt would have been killed by the d’s over this. If Hillary can attack Barry over his preacher, can you imagine what she would do with this story?
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Now that this thread is several days old, could the “Breaking News” part of the title be removed? It ain’t breaking news no mo’.
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