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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
Go San Angelo ^ | 5 April 08 | Paul A. Anthony

Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.

The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.

The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.

The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.

Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.

“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”

Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.

Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.

“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”

Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.

Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.

The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.

“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”

The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.

The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.

Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.

“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.

Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.

No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.

Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.

“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; jeffs; lds; lyingfreepers; mormon; mormonism; pitcairnisland; pologamy; polygamy; romney; soapoperaresty; warrenjeffs
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To: restornu
I am on this thread because they were dragging my faith into this conversation, but bigots are all alike they just can’t resist!

Boo hoo!

(I just COULDN't resist!)

621 posted on 04/06/2008 7:38:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JRochelle
i guess if everyone else dresses the same they were probably ok with it. If nothing comes of this and they go back to the hubbys, they may have a little attitude now. :’)
622 posted on 04/06/2008 7:38:56 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: restornu
I can’t believe you are still trying to do this rope a dope on me!

I can't believe that you STILL cannot or will not tell us just what was UNTRUE about Presbyterianism that Joseph Smith claimed.

623 posted on 04/06/2008 7:39:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; P-Marlowe

Resty,
You are now embarrassing yourself.

OK, you should really talk to a Bishop
for more details about how this happens,
but I’ll help...

bla bla bla....

I really have to ignore your insults AMPU!

***

“Jesus is a descendant of plural marriage as most here on FR in the ancient of day!”

“Was Jesus not a descendant of David and Solomon?”

You really need help on this...

THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO ST MATTHEW CHAPTER 1

Christ is born of Mary—She conceives by the power of the Holy Ghost—Our Lord is named Jesus.

1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;
3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;
6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;


624 posted on 04/06/2008 7:41:49 PM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu
You are still nothing but a baby Chirstian with a tommy guy!

Tommy guy shorts

625 posted on 04/06/2008 7:42:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: McCoMo
Read the Gospel, and engage your brain.

But the clutch slips SO badly!

626 posted on 04/06/2008 7:43:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
I haven’t been following this thread from the beginning, but I got that, it’s pretty evident what she meant.

FINALLY!! Someone who can translate Resty speak into English!

627 posted on 04/06/2008 7:46:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak

Good scriptures, but it really doesn’t answer the question I asked DMS. You’d have to go back and read posts #481, 556, and 562 to understand what the question is related to. In a nutshell, he claims we can be saved based on our good works. I asked him to support what he said with references.


628 posted on 04/06/2008 7:46:33 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; restornu
Hi Ampu. Since we're mincing words here, let me try one. I understood what she meant. Don't try to steady the ark too much, you might pull a muscle. ;-)

How's this instead... “Jesus’s mortal lineage, that of the House of David, fell under the line that was produced within polygamist relationships.”

That better?

629 posted on 04/06/2008 7:48:08 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: dmw

Yeah. you are right, not the same thing. I’m not going back and following this whole thread. I do have a life.

Sorry to butt in.


630 posted on 04/06/2008 7:49:46 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: sevenbak
How's this instead... “Jesus’s mortal lineage, that of the House of David, fell under the line that was produced within polygamist relationships.”

How's this?

The two 'personages' that spoke to Joseph Smith, fit perfectly the description of Satanic messengers posing as angels of light.

631 posted on 04/06/2008 7:49:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

And of course, you have no reason to change at all, right?

You are merely boring me now. Have a nice life.


632 posted on 04/06/2008 7:50:29 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: McCoMo

You are coming across as a blow hart!


633 posted on 04/06/2008 7:52:51 PM PDT by restornu
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To: JRochelle

If it is the intent of the defense to contend that there is a conspiracy against them by a particular denomination, then a person who happens to be that denomination could easily be argued to be biased, thus disqualified from the jury.


634 posted on 04/06/2008 7:53:12 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: sevenbak

“How’s this instead... “Jesus’s mortal lineage, that of the House of David, fell under the line that was produced within polygamist relationships.”

Good try. A for effort. F for falsehood.

Do they not teach the meaning of words in mormonism?
Is this some mormonism way of trying to justify the wrongness
of polygamy that Joseph Smith introduced into mormonism?

Jesus “line” was not produced within polygamist relationships.
Jesus “line” was “produced” between one man and one woman
in each generation.

It would be truthful to say as I did above, that Jesus’
ancestors included polygamists (who violated God’s command
not to multiply wives).

Why is that so hard?

ampu


635 posted on 04/06/2008 7:53:51 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie

Sometimes Elsie, even when you perturb me, I do chuckle at your offerings.

There is good in you yet, I can feel it. Come back from the dark side. ;-)


636 posted on 04/06/2008 7:54:32 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: restornu

Look in a mirror sometime.


637 posted on 04/06/2008 7:54:34 PM PDT by McCoMo
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To: Elsie
The two 'personages' that spoke to Joseph Smith, fit perfectly the description of Satanic messengers posing as angels of light. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
638 posted on 04/06/2008 7:55:30 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: restornu

“You are coming across as a blow hart!”

What’s a blow hart, sweet hart? ;^)


639 posted on 04/06/2008 7:57:08 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Sigh. Of course it was one man and one woman. I'm not changing DNA here AMPU.

OK, I'll do this one more time, just for you.

Jesus’s mortal line came through the House of David, who's kings practiced polygamy. So, for example, while Nathan and or Solomon, (depending on which genealogy you prefer...Matthew or Luke) were sons to Bathsheba, David had many more wives than her. She wasn't the first, not the last.

That satisfy your intellectual prowess? ;-)

640 posted on 04/06/2008 7:58:42 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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