Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot
You use the doings of sinners to justify sin? That is not allowed by God. He compares all men to God come in flesh of the second creation human being, Jesus Christ.
You cannot find any fault in Him. He had no sin, and He was tempted in all points as all in Adam are, from the beginning: the lust of the flesh [and sexual immorality is only one aspect of the lusts of the flesh]; the lusts of the eyes; and the pride of life; and yet, He was without sin.
I agree, and except for 16:3, the other refereces to her are not excactly indicative of an approved relationship.
16:6 - Abraham refers to her as "Your (Sarai's) servant...."
16:8 - the angel speaks to hagar and addresses her as the 'servant of Sarai', not the wife of Abram
21:10 - hagar called "slave woman" by sarai
21:12 - God speaking to Abram refers to hagar as "maidservant", not wife and
25:12 hagar is refered to as Sarai's maidservant and 'the Egyptian.
“The Bible specifically approves of it by God approving of men who were polygamous, Men like Moses the law giver who was polygamous while writing the books of the law!”
That is a lie.
Moses’ had been given a Cushite/Ethiopian wife by the Cushites, when he was made their king after fleeing Egypt. He did not go in to her, ever. Politically, he was in no position to not take her into the household of king, which they gave him for delivering them in a war after he fled Egypt, for 40 years. He had no children by her because he did not go in to her.
He took one wife for himself, who bore his two children.
Moses knew what his calling was, and what the call of Abraham was, from the time of his childhood, as recorded in the book of Jasher [Behold, is it not written in the Book of Jasher; Joshua 10:13;2 Sam 1:18], and it did not include taking a Cushite woman to wife.
This is all recorded in the true book of the Upright -Jasher. You can find it online at www.ccel.org.
I get this stuff from YOUR PROPHETS:
Brigham Young, second president of the LDS Church, declared "The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, p. 269, August 19, 1866)
In a sermon reported in the LDS Church's Deseret News, August 6, 1862, Brigham Young stated:
Monogamy, or restrictions by law to one wife, is no part of the economy of heaven among men. Such a system was commenced by the founders of the Roman empire. . . . Rome became the mistress of the world, and introduced this order of monogamy wherever her sway was acknowledged. Thus this monogamic order of marriage, so esteemed by modern Christians as a holy sacrament and divine institution, is nothing but a system established by a set of robbers. . . .
Why do we believe in and practice polygamy? Because the Lord introduced it to his servants in a revelation given to Joseph Smith, and the Lord's servants have always practiced it. "And is that religion popular in heaven?" It is the only popular religion there . . . (Deseret News, August 6, 1862)
Now, are you willing to disavow Brigham Young and call him a false prophet? If so, then we can ROTFLOL together.
K would’ve been more than ole Joe Schmidt could handle.
A message would have come to Joe about her:
“And, verily, verily, thou shalt look unto thy house, and should thy husband desire an additional espoused virgin, thou shalt say unto him, “See this here cleaver, bubba? The Tomahawk Chop ain’t got nothin’ on me! We’re gonna have some cleaving going on, if you don’t head on back to the house.”
And Joe would’ve said to her:
“Verily, Verily, Yes Dear...”
Ah yes, another episode of Leave it to Cleaver, (ducking and running away)
And, verily, verily, thou shalt look unto thy house, and should thy husband desire an additional espoused virgin, thou shalt say unto him”
K was Dick Armey’s inspiration for this gem,
When asked, “If you had been in President Clinton’s place would you have resigned?”
Armey’s reply:
“If I had been in the president’s place I would not have gotten the chance to resign. I would have been lying in a pool of my own blood, looking up, and listening to my wife ask, ‘How do you reload this damn thing?”
Now you see what happens when the Mormons tried putting a screen door on a submarine. They did put a hook and eye latch on it, but they left the hatch open when trying to dive out of the truth raining down on them.
They gave the girls baby dolls? Oh my!
OFTEN!!??
70% of the time!
Placemark
What you two won’t do to feel good about yourselves!
Resty, did that little hateful post relieve some of your bitterness?
You are the folks doing the mud sling but that is ok becaues I am read documents from the lip of Helen Mar Kimball-Whitney and getting a real insight of the real struggles the LDS had to do to build up the Lord Kingdom on earth.
and when you little heel nippers continue to bark the more pathetic you all are looking...
Matter of fact Helen talks about those who were just like you now and none of your kind have change a bit!
BTTT
Why should he? He's still getting mileage out of the line that *you shall be as God*. Proof enough that mankind hasn't changed enough for him to change his tactics.
Been there, done that.
That’s the problem with fixer-uppers.
“heel nippers......”
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