Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot
Local and state officials entered the temple of a secretive polygamist sect late Saturday, said lawmen blockading the road to the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado.
The action comes hours after local prosecutors said officials were preparing for the worst because a group of FLDS members were resisting efforts to search the structure.
The Texas Department of Public Safety trooper and Schleicher County sheriff’s deputy confirmed that officials have entered the temple but said they had no word on whether anything occurred in the effort.
The incursion into the temple caps the three-day saga of the state’s Child Protective Services agency removing at least 183 women and children from the YFZ Ranch since Friday afternoon. Eighteen girls have been placed in state custody since a 16-year-old told authorities she was married to a 50-year-old man and had given birth to his child.
Saturday evening, ambulances were brought in, said Allison Palmer, who as first assistant 51st District attorney, would prosecute any felony crimes uncovered as part of the investigation inside the compound.
“In preparing for entry to the temple, law enforcement is preparing for the worst,” Palmer said Saturday evening. They want to have “medical personnel on hand in case this were to go in a way that no one wants.”
Apparently as a result of action Saturday night at the ranch, about 10:15 p.m. Saturday, a Schleicher County school bus unloaded another group of at least a dozen more women and children from the compound.
Although members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or FLDS, have provided varying degrees of cooperation to the sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers searching the compound, all cooperation stopped once authorities tried to search the gleaming white temple that towers over the West Texas scrub, Palmer said.
“There may be those who would oppose (entry) by placing themselves between law enforcement and the place of worship,” Palmer said Saturday afternoon. “If an agreement cannot be reached … law enforcement will have to — as gently and peaceably as possible — make entry into that place.”
Sect members consider the temple, dedicated by then-leader of the sect Warren Jeffs in January 2005 and finished many months later, off-limits to those who are not FLDS members, said Palmer, who prosecutes felony cases in Schleicher County.
Palmer said she didn’t know the size or makeup of the group inside the temple.
The earlier refusal to provide access was even more disconcerting because CPS investigators have yet to identify the 16-year-old girl or her roughly 8-month-old baby among the dozens removed from the compound, Palmer said.
“Anytime someone says, ‘Don’t look here,’” she said, “it makes you concerned that’s exactly where you need to look.”
The girl told authorities in two separate phone calls a day apart that she was married to a 50-year-old man, Dale Barlow, who had fathered her child, Palmer said.
The joint raid included the Texas Rangers, CPS, Schleicher County and Tom Green County sheriff’s deputies and game wardens from the Texas Department of Parks and Wildlife.
Although CPS and Department of Public Safety officials have described the compound’s residents as cooperative, Palmer disagreed.
“Things have been a little tense, a little volatile,” she said.
Authorities removed 52 children Friday afternoon and 131 women and children overnight Friday. About 40 of the children are boys, said CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner.
No further children have been taken into state custody since Friday, when 18 girls were judged to have been abused or be at imminent risk for abuse. CPS has found foster homes for the girls, Meisner said, and will place them after concluding its investigation.
Meisner declined to comment on the fate of the 119 other children and said authorities were still searching the ranch for others Saturday evening.
“They’re in the process of looking,” she said. “They’re literally about halfway through.”
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1. How you interpret it is wrong... |
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2. You are too ignorant to really understand it because you are not a member.... |
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3. You're not qualified to judge because you're no LONGER a member... |
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4. You are just a bigot for bringing the whole ugly truth to light ... |
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5. So’s yer Mama! |
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6. Laugh it all off and post some silly image. |
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7. Jump down the rabbit hole; Alice! |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1982682/posts?page=683#683 |
8. Bait & Switch |
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9. The OTHER 'half' of the truth is what we are avoiding. |
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10. "I Know It When I See It" |
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11. Hand waving... |
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12. YOU play defense for a while. |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1982682/posts?page=944#944 |
13. HEE Hee hee... let's get the Calvinists and the Armenians fighting! |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1994515/posts?page=15#15 |
14. GREAT FUN! Let's get the Catholics and the Protestants fighting! |
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15. Huh? Did you say something? |
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16. If I repeat this enough times some folks will be fooled into thinking it's true. |
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17. Playing dumb. |
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18. Refusing to answer because your ATTITUDE offends them. |
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19. (Let's see if they'll fall for the 'Defend a freak' ploy.) |
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20. And the MOST used... IGNORE what they posted and answer the question that SHOULD have been asked. |
Well if looks like you lie to make something else look like a lie...
"The record is now published in many languages as a new and additional witness that Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God and that all who will come unto him and obey the laws and ordinances of his gospel may be saved.Concerning this record the Prophet Joseph Smith said: "I told the brethern that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book."
About this edition: Some minor errors in the text have been perpetrated in past editions of the Book of Mormon. This edition contains corrections that seem appropriate to bring the material into conformity with prepublication manuscripts and early editions edited by the Prophet Joseph Smith.
I still agree so what are you doing to do about that viper?
You don't understand: she does NOT remember them that way, and, when she re-reads them, the words come out different in her mind.
Since she KNOWS she is right; YOU must be the perpetrator!
That's just another one of their secrets.
As a Catholic, I can identify where I disagree with Protestantism and Protestants can identify where they disagree with Catholicism. NONE of this is done in secret and I know of very few Catholics or Protestants anymore who believe that the others are going to Hell for what they do or don't believe.
But not so with Mormons; when confronted with questions they don't want to answer, you will be accused of "mocking" Mormonism.
Bye-bye
I like the blue one. Which one are you getting?
As I said, you should really read up on circular reasoning.
It is not important how or when either of us aquired our faith. I have no doubt that you have faith. Faith in no way answers the questions I asked you.
Just as you have NO scripture to back up ANY of the things that is done inside your magnificent Temples.
It's all those LDSer's PLEADING with GOD that ended the BLACK exclusion from the Priesthood.
(Now; let me tell you about that ocean front proerty in Eldorado...)
You da Beast + 1,000!
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It is not important how or when either of us aquired our faith. I have no doubt that you have faith. Faith in no way answers the questions I asked you.
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yes it is and you know it!
You just have no answer to back up your position
you have never received a witness or you would have spoken about it!
Isa. 42:
1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
Matt. 3:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Matt. 12:
18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
Matt. 17:
5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
John 5: 37
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
John 6:
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
John 8:
18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
John 12:
28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
2 Pet. 1:
17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
1 Jn. 5:
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
Nope, just repeating what your own leaders have taught. Like I posted Here
A nice excerpt for you:
Gospel Teachings About Lying from Elder Dallin H. Oaks, a fireside address given to faculty, students, and alumni of BYU on September 12, 1993. He goes on to give a great treatise on the sinfulness of lying then towards the end does a 180 and claims the following:
“In contrast to the obligation to tell the truth and nothing but the truth, the obligation to “tell the whole truth” is subject to an important qualification…..”
“Whether a speaker is morally or legally obliged to speak ‘the whole truth’ is therefore determined by the extent of the speaker's duty to disclose……”
“In the matter of lying, the essential question is not whether we have a duty to tell the truth and nothing but the truth. We clearly have that duty. We must not lie. I know of no category of justified lies.”
“The difficult question is whether we are morally responsible to tell the whole truth. When we have a duty to disclose, we are morally responsible to do so. Where there is no duty to disclose, we have two alternatives. We may be free to disclose if we choose to do so, but there will be circumstances where commandments, covenants, or professional obligations require us to remain silent.”
A half-truth is still a lie....and lies don't come from God...if you are being taught to lie for your faith, the author of your faith is not God.
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