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The peroxide and fruit drink plan to down seven airliners
The Register (UK) ^ | Friday 4th April 2008 10:50 GMT | John Lettice

Posted on 04/04/2008 10:42:37 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The trial of eight British men accused of plotting to blow up seven airliners using liquid explosives began yesterday at Woolwich Crown Court, where prosecutor Peter Wright QC laid out details of their alleged plan. Using a home made liquid explosive mixture concealed in soft drinks containers the accused intended to set off the explosions when all the aircraft were at high altitude, he said, causing thousands of casualties.

The prosecution claimed that the explosive was planned to consist of hydrogen peroxide mixed with a powdered version of the fruit drink Tang. The addition of Tang, "which is an energetic compound", would aid detonation, said Wright. He claimed that the mixture was intended to be dyed to match the colour of a soft drink, then substituted for the contents of 500ml bottles of Lucozade and Oasis. The original contents of these would be extracted without breaking the seal by means of a syringe, and the resulting hole in the base of the bottle sealed with superglue.

The jury was told that the bombs were to have been detonated using hexamethylene triperoxide diamine (HMTD), an explosive compound prepared using hydrogen peroxide and hexamine. This mix would be concealed in hollowed out batteries, and put together with the liquid explosives and a power source, possibly a disposable camera, once the flight was airborne.

A diary which Wright said was found on one of the accused gave details of the planning. "Mouthwash, blue, red. Calculate exact drops of Tang, plus colour. Make in HP." And: "Lucozade, red, 1.5 drops, one teaspoon Tang, one teaspoon orange, 12 drops. Oasis, red. On, red dye. Orange, two times mango."

The men were arrested in August 2006 leading to a worldwide clamp-down on liquids in carry-on baggage, with the ban initially extending even to jam sandwiches, and leading to debates over the relative explosive capabilities of hard and soft cheeses.

Hydrogen peroxide is readily available in dilute form, which can with some effort be converted to a more concentrated form viable in explosive mixtures. Tang, meanwhile, is available in liquid and powdered form, and is a fruit drink made by Kraft.

The trial continues, and is expected to last six to eight months. ®


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedauk; alqueda; flight800; jihadinamerica; jihadineurope; terrortrials; wot
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What the H**l does Tang do for the formulation...?

It's the sugar. The oxidant.

21 posted on 04/04/2008 11:08:34 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Alouette

When I was a kid we’d blow ourselves up with chemistry sets or a few simple ingredients available at drugstores. I’ll forever curse the lawyers and nanny-staters who made it impossible to sell the really good chemistry sets nowadays.


22 posted on 04/04/2008 11:09:47 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The inventor of Tang, William A. Mitchell, also invented Pop Rocks.

It has long been believed that Tang got its name from China because of its high content of sugar. The Chinese name for sugar is Tang.

A household tip says Tang is an excellent dishwasher cleaning agent due to its high citric acid content, although Kraft does not recommend it or advocate such use.

Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=1996785%2C11


23 posted on 04/04/2008 11:10:51 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Image hosted by Photobucket.com skin them all alive... then set their azzes on fire!!!
24 posted on 04/04/2008 11:12:13 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: mysterio

Same here, never into property damage, just liked making things go boom. A 35mm film can filled with home-made flashpowder was great for taking chunks out of tree stumps.


25 posted on 04/04/2008 11:12:54 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: RightWhale

pardon me Right but your wrong

The sugar in Tang is the reducing agent - the peroxide would be the oxidizing agent.

But if they mixed them together how id it not go boom when mixed - somebody know?

Lurking’


26 posted on 04/04/2008 11:13:38 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: RightWhale

Sugar is fuel, not oxidizer. The first composite model rocket engines from the 1970s used sugar mixed with an oxidizing agent.


27 posted on 04/04/2008 11:14:38 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Squawk 8888

I still remember the Potassium Permanganate volcano, LOL.


28 posted on 04/04/2008 11:14:45 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: posterchild

And the ammonia is diluted about the same.

Many people have no clue just how powerful the most common household cleaning chemicals are, in their natural state.

It is why the chemicals must be so greatly diluted.

You could open a bottle of %50 ammonia, and whiff a smell of it, but you would only do it once.


29 posted on 04/04/2008 11:15:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: NormsRevenge

See followon comments.


30 posted on 04/04/2008 11:15:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: UCANSEE2
It’s in case they make you take a sip to prove it’s TANG.
It disguises the taste of h2o2.

At airports I've been through recently, they just make you toss the drink.

31 posted on 04/04/2008 11:16:56 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: LurkingSince'98

That’s about the level of science on this BBS.


32 posted on 04/04/2008 11:18:00 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks, I saw Pop rocks mentioned, they popped in my head too.. well, in my mouth technically but..


33 posted on 04/04/2008 11:18:59 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Alouette; RightWhale; All

The artificial sweeteners used in the new formulation are Sucralose, acesulfame potassium, and Neotame.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_(drink)


34 posted on 04/04/2008 11:19:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: UCANSEE2

As is Sodium Hypochlorite (bleach).
Which is the reason that when railroad tanker cars of ammonia are involved in an accident the authorities call hazardous materials specialists rather than Mr. Clean.


35 posted on 04/04/2008 11:20:25 AM PDT by posterchild ("Congress does two things very well: one is nothing and two is overreact." - Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Tang would be the oxidizer.


36 posted on 04/04/2008 11:20:25 AM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Eight British men?


37 posted on 04/04/2008 11:20:32 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: LurkingSince'98

Here’s how


“The jury was told that the bombs were to have been detonated using hexamethylene triperoxide diamine (HMTD), an explosive compound prepared using hydrogen peroxide and hexamine.

This mix would be concealed in hollowed out batteries, and put together with the liquid explosives and a power source, possibly a disposable camera, once the flight was airborne.”


38 posted on 04/04/2008 11:21:55 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Squawk 8888

Are we ready to take on Algore’s science? Algore can’t read a meniscus, but can we?


39 posted on 04/04/2008 11:24:14 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: toddlintown
"Tang went to the moon."

Not Poon Tang. Yet.

40 posted on 04/04/2008 11:24:39 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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