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Pirates seize French cruise ship
Associated Press ^ | 04/04/08

Posted on 04/04/2008 10:10:42 AM PDT by presidio9

Pirates seized control of a French cruise ship Friday off the coast of Somalia, France's Foreign Ministry said.

A ministry official said details about the attack were scarce, and it was not clear how many crew members were on board the ship or if there were any passengers.

The ship is in the high seas in the Gulf of Aden, off the coast of Somalia in the Indian Ocean.

The official declined to identify the vessel or its owner.

The ministry has set up a crisis center to deal with the situation, said the official, who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

Pirates seized more than two dozen ships off the Somali coast last year.

The U.S. Navy has led international patrols to try to combat piracy in the region. Last year, the guided missile destroyer USS Porter opened fire to destroy pirate skiffs tied to a Japanese tanker.

Wracked by more than a decade of violence and anarchy, Somalia does not have its own navy and

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arrrrrrrr; cruiseship; hostages; leponant; maritime; piracy; pirates; somalia; surrendermonkeys; usn
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To: mad_as_he$$

That might work, although I suppose you’d need some sort of thermal imaging for those dark nights. Never tried it myself. In any case, you’d still need a couple of guys who are awake.


101 posted on 04/05/2008 7:39:09 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Bridge watch. Night vision has reached a level that many do not understand. FLIRS are getting very good and can reach out a long way. A hot boat motor would be like a torch to one.
102 posted on 04/05/2008 7:47:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: 1rudeboy
In any case, you’d still need a couple of guys who are awake.

I don't care if all you have is a 40' sloop, if you don't set a watch while under way, you're criminally negligent.

Forget the pirates -- unlit fishing vessels, drifting deck cargo off container vessels, anchors dragging, etc. And if you don't set a watch while at anchor, you need to have tin cans on the deck lines to keep the locals from stealing your outboard motor.

103 posted on 04/05/2008 8:10:08 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I agree on the negligence part. But it happens. Talk to any blue water sailor who’s ever been almost run down by a container ship.


104 posted on 04/05/2008 8:12:38 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

“international concealed-carry permit, cowboy.”

Who brought that up?? Jeez you’re just swinging into the wind, aren’t you. “Cowboy”, well, you’re just all mouth calling people names because you have this anti-gun agenda we don’t subscribe to. I hope no one close to you ever needs to depend on you being brave enough to do more than just lie there and die like a coward.


105 posted on 04/05/2008 9:49:03 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

I brought it up because you have confused sailing from Florida to Bermuda with running out for milk and eggs. I’m speaking maritime security. You are waving your e-peen around.


106 posted on 04/05/2008 9:51:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: jpsb

“Perhaps, but I sense the French are once again transforming themselves into a great power.”

French bashing aside, I’ll take the 1000 more soldiers that Sarkozy promised for Afghanistan.


107 posted on 04/05/2008 10:24:37 AM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: Cincinna; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Exclusive:
French warship diverted to free luxury yacht crew seized by pirates off Somalia
Debka.com | April 5, 2008
Posted on 04/05/2008 7:39:50 AM PDT by HAL9000
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1997169/posts

Pirates seize French ship off Somalia
AP / Yahoo | April 4, 2008 | Jamey Keaten
Posted on 04/04/2008 2:01:16 PM EDT by prairiebreeze
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1996792/posts

-earlier incident-

Man speaks of Somalian pirate hostage drama
Daily Telegraph (UK) | 04/04/2008 | Richard Savill
Posted on 04/03/2008 7:04:09 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1996460/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/somalia/


108 posted on 04/05/2008 10:30:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: Publius6961
Piracy is not new, but the way to deal with them sure is.

I want to bring back the letters of marque and reprisal.

109 posted on 04/05/2008 10:36:37 PM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Its called “surface-search radar”. If you're in a bad neighborhood (like Somalia or the Straights of Malacca) you keep a security watch. If someone gets too close, you go to a heightened alert status. If they actually start to approach you, you let ‘em know you're awake and armed. They go look for an easier victim...

If you actally read reports on piracy (they publish ‘em on the net) a lot pirates are stopped by alert crews and high-pressure hoses. Alert crews and autocannons might go a long way toward putting them out of business.

Of course the only way to actually put them out of business is to pursue 'em into their home ports and burn the port down around the ears of the pirates and their supporters. Nobody really seems to have the balls to do that any more.

110 posted on 04/07/2008 6:03:02 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: Little Ray
Zodiacs don't show up on radar. Your only options are either floodlights or as mentioned above, thermal imaging. And again, you have to have one or two people awake and dedicated solely to the task.

The notion that some guy standing on the bridge periodically glancing at the scope is enough is simply not realistic.

111 posted on 04/07/2008 6:07:11 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: AnAmericanMother

If you’re wanting to transit the Red Sea and the Suez Canal, aside from taking the long way around your options are relatively limited.


112 posted on 04/07/2008 6:12:24 AM PDT by Doohickey ("We cannot insure victory, but we can deserve it" - John Adams)
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To: Doohickey
There are better options than just hoping for the best and not even setting a watch.

1. Hire an escort with significant firepower

2. Travel in company like the East Indiamen used to do

3. Leave the low-freeboard vessel in the Med and use something more defensible.

113 posted on 04/07/2008 6:15:47 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: 1rudeboy

You are right, a ship would need a dedicated security watch with decent sensor equipment (I’d go for thermal over floodlights - floodlights help the pirates find you...).
Then they would have to decide what was a potential “mothership” and go on heightened alert - with many potential false alarms.
Its up to the company to decide which is better - paying ransom for a ship and crew, thus encouraging more pirates, or paying for a security watch and sufficienct armament to, hopefully, make life dangerous for pirate wannabes.
The good news is that Zodiacs can’t cross that much distance, and they’ll have some issue finding a ship at night, too. And, if you spot a zodiac approacing, you KNOW its up to no good - no warning shots required...


114 posted on 04/07/2008 6:17:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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