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McCain VP...What Can We Do?
National Review Magazine | 4/7/08 | Not Sure, Doesn't Say

Posted on 04/03/2008 4:29:08 PM PDT by NoGrayZone

"John McCain won the Republican presidential primaries by running as a pro-life Reagan Republican, committed to low taxes and a strong defense. We assume that he will therefore pick a running mate who shares these views and whom conservatives can eagerly support. We assume, as well, that he is more interested in winning the White House than in redefining the Republican party, and will not try to make the party platform reflect each of his views. Should McCain’s judgment err in these respects, however, conservatives will not be powerless. Securing the vice-presidential nomination requires a majority of delegates to the party convention, and those delegates can abstain. A majority of the delegates from any six states can nominate someone else, and can also contest portions of the platform. Most conservatives are willing to support McCain this fall, with varying degrees of enthusiasm, and are also willing to work with him before and after the election. But conservatives are not, and should not be, willing to go along with McCain no matter what. Delegates should be prepared to stand for their principles, and the party’s future."

Being quite the newbie in the world of politics (voted since I was 18, just not "so involved") I had no idea the 1st set of bolded words existed. IF McCain does chose a Conservative VP, I still cannot give him my vote (well NGZ, why the heck did you start this thread), however.......

There has been much talk here on FR about a "3rd" Conservative party. Actually, it really would be a 2nd party since there is not much distinction between the pubes and dumbocrats. This is where the thread comes in.

Every party, every revolution, every everything usually starts with a small bunch. MSM (that includes you too pubes)keeps stating the "Conservatives" are not happy with McCain but will "step in line" come election time. McCain is now "contemplating" his VP.

If the above 1st bolded is true THESE DELEGATES ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW HOW TICKED OFF WE ARE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HEARING FROM US ON A DAILY BASIS. They do NOT know by stepping in line with the FAKE republican party THEIR JOBS WILL BE AT RISK.

Instead of all this infighting, Conservative against Conservative, let's bring it to the people who DESERVE it!

This requires a group effort! Even with all the infighting, no matter which "group" you belong to, the 1 thing we all seem to have in common is a longing for a Conservative VP.

There are many many intelligent people here. Information finders, articulate writers (had to use that word, lol), people with contacts, brite ideas, etc....AND A LOVE FOR OUR WONDERFUL COUNTRY, WARTS AND ALL.

Plan..... we need to gather ALL names of R delegates and rate from most Conservative (we start there) on down. We harrass the bleep out of them with phone calls, letters, emails, the works, and let them know how important a Conservative VP is and reiterate the 1st bolded above. We need to let them know we are out here and what their shoving down our throats is unacceptable.

We need to start somewhere and do something constructive to try and stop the impending train wreck. Heck, this could be the beginning of our Conservative party, who knows! I just know we have to do something, together (we can still bicker if you want).

What do you think? If someone has another idea, let's hear it. Heck, let's at least start putting something together.

When one door closes, He opens another. Let's walk through, together, and get something going.

P.S. Don't forget to donate to this quarters FReepathon!!!!

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; election; mccain; missinglink; nro; vp; yayanothervanity
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Comments? Ideas? We don't have a lot of time, let's do something. Also, does anyone know for sure that the 1st bolded is actually true? And yes, I would be sooooo embarrassed it if wasn't!
1 posted on 04/03/2008 4:29:08 PM PDT by NoGrayZone
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To: NoGrayZone
There's nothing you can do. "Mavericks" aren't interested in grass-root opinions; neither is the GOP. They've decided that being quasi-liberal makes them more likeable to the MSM.

All you can really do is pray that McCain makes a decent choice. But influence his selection criteria? Good luck with that.

2 posted on 04/03/2008 4:32:28 PM PDT by kromike
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To: NoGrayZone

Cue the “aw jeez” guy.


3 posted on 04/03/2008 4:32:45 PM PDT by jdm (Sign you've got a crappy job: your boss asks if you're on MySpace and if you'll add him as a friend.)
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To: kromike

“There’s nothing you can do.”

If our founding fathers had that attitude there would be no America. Buck up, there is ALWAYS something we can do.

If we’re going to go down, let’s go down fighting.


4 posted on 04/03/2008 4:38:14 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: jdm
"Cue the “aw jeez” guy."

How about this instead....

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5 posted on 04/03/2008 4:40:09 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone
You can hope that the rumor that “Ace” is considering Fred Smith, CEO and founder of Fed Ex.

Fred is an old buddy of McCain, and endorsed him very early on. He is an excellent business man, has a good reputation. and a household name. He is also a fresh face and I feel sure that would accept if asked.

Someone that I could live with.

6 posted on 04/03/2008 4:40:53 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: kromike
But influence his selection criteria? Good luck with that.

Why can't we influence the selection or the criteria for the selection?

We are stuck with McCain, like it or not. Some of us can choose to abstain, but that would be essentially one less vote to counter an equivalent democrat vote.

FR is known around the U.S. as a very influential forum and what we do matters and most politicians tune in to what it is that FReepers are saying or are up to.

If we let McCain know what our criteria is for a VP nominee and we "promise" to "get on board" with McCain's candidacy, perhaps he'll actually go along with our nominating criteria or nominee choices. But we have to insist on a strong conservative republican for the VP role.

We could start by naming some of ours preferences right here.
7 posted on 04/03/2008 4:43:16 PM PDT by adorno
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To: NoGrayZone

If you are commenting on something on the NR website, why don’t you do us all a favor and provide a link?


8 posted on 04/03/2008 4:46:03 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: adorno

“We could start by naming some of ours preferences right here.”

Exactly!!!! Why should we just sit and eat whatever they feed us?? I LOVE your attitude. Even if we don’t get what we want, at least we go down fighting.

This is why I posted. There are so many people here (post 6 is a perfect example) who DO have ideas. Like I said, I’m quite a newbie at politics and probably have not heard of many names some will give. But I can research.


9 posted on 04/03/2008 4:50:55 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone
Good Lord, that is a whole lot of BS, and I didn't know they piled crap this high all at once.

Way too many assumptions.

10 posted on 04/03/2008 4:54:08 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: iowamark

Please take a look again. I said National Review Magazine. I have the magazine and I typed what was written. I also did not click “excerpt” since I did not get it online.


11 posted on 04/03/2008 4:54:20 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone
advancing a political agenda is all about creating a majority. it's about forming alliances among varying but similar factions through compromise. if we split our majority because of perceived impurities of conservative ideology we will have to suffer rule by radical liberals. we cannot lead if we cannot unite. rule #1 for returning america to her traditional roots: deny power to radical liberals.
12 posted on 04/03/2008 4:54:55 PM PDT by thejokker
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To: bill1952

Would you care to share your assumptions?


13 posted on 04/03/2008 4:55:34 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone
Let Dick Cheney decide the VP. His last pick was perfect.
14 posted on 04/03/2008 4:55:44 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: NoGrayZone
We assume, as well, that he is more interested in winning the White House than in redefining the Republican party, and will not try to make the party platform reflect each of his views.

False premise rigiht from the Get-Go.

The editorial "WE" that authored this doesn't know John McCain very well at all.

John has many liberal characteristics.
One of them is that he cannot abide those who disagree with him.

This quote from William F. Buckley applies to closet liberals like McCain as much as it does to any other liberal:


15 posted on 04/03/2008 4:55:57 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: adorno
>FR is known around the U.S. as a very influential forum

Sorry, but this cycle we conservatives have been batting near zero in our choices.

If your statement were true we would be sending money to Fred Dalton Thompson, or failing that, to Mitt Romney, but we could not even come close.

>and we “promise” to “get on board” with McCain's candidacy, perhaps he'll actually go along with our nominating criteria or nominee choices

Dream on.

>But we have to insist on a strong conservative republican for the VP role.

Dream on.

16 posted on 04/03/2008 4:57:38 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: NoGrayZone
Conservatives in the GOP fail to understand the GOP has been so intent to expand its voter base by appeasing to those who are not Conservative that the party has moved to the socialist left and consequently has incrementally aligned itself with the socialist Democrats. Conservatives only alternative is to vote for Conservatives in another party.
17 posted on 04/03/2008 4:57:50 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: thejokker

“advancing a political agenda is all about creating a majority.”

And how on earth do you expect to create a majority without starting from a minority? Things just don’t go BOOM, wha la, here’s your majority (except of course God, but you’re not Him, are you). Like it or not, the republican party is GONE. On it’s way to becoming the “radical liberals” you so seem to fear.


18 posted on 04/03/2008 4:59:22 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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To: NoGrayZone; All

“Comments? Ideas?”

We can contact Senator McCain and tell him we want a strong conservative VP, and here’s McCain’s contact info:

John McCain 703-418-2008 and e-mail jpblack@mccain08hq.com and http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/

We can call the RNC, and tell them how strongly we feel about a strong conservative VP for Senator McCain.

RNC number is:

202-863-8500


19 posted on 04/03/2008 4:59:58 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: NoGrayZone
A quick Google search finds:

National Review March 12 2008: Brawl in St. Paul

20 posted on 04/03/2008 5:00:18 PM PDT by iowamark
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