Posted on 04/02/2008 5:00:11 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
How does one debate with a liberal? Sorry, under current rules, debate is not allowed. Just as our new national conversation on race is limited exclusively to authentic blacks, so is any semblance of debate with those on the left limited to those who accept the rules of debate, as defined by liberals.
Just as Boy Clinton redefined the meaning of sex, so have liberals redefined the meaning of debate. If your view doesn't accord with the progressive, politically correct elites, the debate is relabeled an 'argument', your opinion is redefined as a 'judgment' and both are promptly dismissed.
By controlling language, the left controls and defines the issues. Hillary didn't lie about being under fire in Bosnia, she merely misspoke. The rules stipulate that only conservatives lie.....
The liberal belief system seems to be their religion. They seem to truly believe it and there is no way to debate their beliefs in liberalism. I have given up and have gone back to trying to teach pigs to sing.
The liberal method is to give the appearance of using rational thought while stealthily abandoning it completely, refusing to be accountable, and not taking a real stand on any given issue.
Deception is their most prized weapon.
I think it was H. L. Mencken who said “ You cannot argue with ignorance or dogma.”
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Instead of teaching pigs to sing, teach people that liberalism is identical to socialism. Make Republicans talk about socialism. Make them give a true definition of socialism and have them compare it to liberalism. Republicans, everyone of them, will not talk about socialism. Why? Those running for office need to bring it up. If they don’t, it is my opinion that they believe in it.
You know how I debate liberals? I call them lying socialists. Yup, right to their face. Then when they tell me I am insensitive(or a Nazi) I tell them to quit crying and move to Canada like they promised if Bush won.
Shuts them up every time.
I totally agree....it’s impossible to have a rational discussion with a liberal based on facts. Conservatives “think” and liberals “feel”. Totally different concepts.
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You are missing a huge opportunity when they call you a NAZI.
Tell them what NAZI means: "National Socialist Workers Party."
Then tell them the principles of NAZI policy: Heavy regulation of private property, bureaucracies everywhere, government educated children, control of travel, punishment of politically incorrect speech, a draft into national service, gun confiscation, persecution of religion, and environmentalism.
THAT will shut them up.
I have done that. I have only gotten a blank stare. Maybe it sank in later. Time is better spent teaching pigs to sing.
Oh they got it all righty. What you saw was the, I don't know what to say when I know I can't win.
That blank stare was victory.
Do your homework and get command of the facts. It takes some work but it is worth it. Always remember: Facts are the liberal's kryptonite. Counter their bullshit with facts and watch them go berserk on the spot. Usually the first toxic reaction is a mindless retort attempting to establish some sort of parallelism--"your guy does it too" kind of fallacy. Also known as the limp-minded Allan Colmes response. This will inevitably be a lame effort but again, be prepared to pop their balloon with ---yes-- the facts.
Shortly thereafter, they will go into leftwing meltdown, call you a fascist, racist or worse, and most likely stumble off in a rage. Do not react to this retreat into infantilism. Allow it to bloom and fade. The payoff is the privilege of rolling your eyes at whoever is left after witnessing the debacle.
I forget who said that someone who’se opinion is formed by others will defend it to the death.
I got called that once. I said "If I'm a NAZI, then that means my party is responsible for murdering people. Tell me again which party is for Abortion and has killed 5 times more humans that Hitler?" Then just refer to them as "Baby Killers" Man they hate that!
You start by asking them why they subscribe to racially-motivated eugenics and Marxist Communism. If they are not intellectually honest or capable of acknowledging these points then they cannot debate using logic.
Actually I think I'll be making a nice flyer out of this. thanks.
Hitler's first run for office was financially supported by the Warburgs and the Schiffs, the same banking families who backed Lenin. Both thesis and antithesis from the same Satanic source: Kabbalistic Sabbateanism. If you wish to understand this history in depth, I suggest To Eliminate the Opiate, by Orthodox Jewish Rabbi and Chief Justice of the Supreme Rabbinic Court of the United States, Marvin S. Antelman.
Just so you know, I didn’t write this...just posted it.
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