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The Immigrant Gap
Wall Street Journal ^ | 1 April 2008 | MATTHEW J. SLAUGHTER

Posted on 04/01/2008 4:44:27 PM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: E. Cartman
Perhaps we should begin importing foreign help to do the work Jorge Bush and the chair-moisteners in congress are too lazy to do.

Frankly, rather than IMPORTING mpre immigrants, let's just EXPORT Jorge's/Congress' jobs to someone in India reading scripts on a computer monitor.

21 posted on 04/01/2008 6:02:51 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: grey_whiskers
OR it could be that the US companies want to undermine the US middle class, having sucked all the cash out of them that can be managed: and the companies are trying to foster a replacement middle class in the "developing" (and younger!) countries, in order to replace the aging baby boomers as key consumers.

But you have to admit, it's ironic that it's our business "elites" that are making this country ripe for socialism.

22 posted on 04/01/2008 6:03:32 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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To: cinives

> When defining a job meant defining it in such specific terms
> that it is seemingly tailored for only one or two specific
> persons ?

Truth.

Also, some American companies make no effort at all to train their own employees when the industry re-tools. And some American companies have versionitis [SIC]: where they will only hire someone that knows a specific version when the overall principles remain the same.

Like you, I believe H1B visas in the software industry at least, are systematically abused.


23 posted on 04/01/2008 7:03:45 PM PDT by mbj
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To: shrinkermd
We throw a gigantic sum of money (local, state and federal) at the educational establishment and we don't turn out local graduates with the skills that our remnant industries need to compete in the new economy/new world order? What's going on?
24 posted on 04/01/2008 7:06:54 PM PDT by trane250
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To: grey_whiskers

When I stop seeing American companies laying off 40+ year old engineers and computer scientists in favor of foreign or younger workers, then I’ll be in favor of opening up the H1B visa program.
The entire article neatly refuted in ONE sentence.

Consider yourself highly commendedTM, sir!

Cheers!


ultra dittos, ping and btttp...

Moreover, it is so TOTALLY insulting to suggest Americans are not creative, not brimming over with ideas, or otherwise lacking in skills or talent.

By whatever means, the bad actors, the major technology companies, in this drama need more than a kick in the teeth. They need to be hung by their balls for screwing our own best and brightest while buying the cheap “talent” from overseas.


25 posted on 04/01/2008 7:11:38 PM PDT by bioqubit
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To: trane250
The money is thrown at the "womyn's studies" and "GLBTQ" (gay-lesbian-bisexual-transgendered-questionable) and "Ethnic Grievance" (Jeremiah Wright) and Ward Churchill programs, not at Physics, Chemistry, Biology, and Engineering.

Which is just as well, since the powers that be have moved all of the technical jobs to the Third World anyway in order to rake in enough $$ from the short-term savings to move up the scale at The Emperor's Club from Kristin (Three Diamonds) to Maya (Six or Seven Diamonds).

In the meantime, Dell, who helped pioneer this crap, is having to cut thousands of US jobs since nobody wants their non-quality-tested, commoditized crap backed by arrogant tech support who cannot speak English anymore.

Is the long-overdue flight to quality coming?

Cheers!

26 posted on 04/01/2008 7:24:48 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: trane250

The reason why is our kids aren’t taught how to think or how to compete, but rather, they’re taught “how to feel good” about themselves.


27 posted on 04/01/2008 10:00:12 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (I'm An American Engaged To Another American, we're not a mixed couple.)
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To: shrinkermd
There is no Immigrant gap, just a wage gap.

These heroic “Captains of Industry” understand the laws of supply and demand except when it comes to prevailing wages, then they “cheat” and undercut the American middle class by importing H1b wage slaves. Some system we got here. Only in America(And I mean that, this CAN ONLY HAPPEN in America).

28 posted on 04/02/2008 3:44:15 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: mbj

Agreed. It wasn’t that way in prior decades - thru the late 90s companies had respect for their skilled personnel and would understand that thinking skills are more rare than specific language skills.

Now, thinking skills are expendable. And they wonder why intelligent people don’t want to spend the time getting degrees in computer science and engineering when you will be out on your ass by age 40 or so.

I have seen way too much of this in the industry to not know it’s true for almost all large American companies managed by MBA graduates.


29 posted on 04/02/2008 5:17:21 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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