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Hagel: Who says we have to win Iraq?
Press TV, Iran ^ | Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:19:47

Posted on 03/31/2008 12:38:08 PM PDT by april15Bendovr

Hagel: Who says we have to win Iraq? Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:19:47

Republican Senator Chuck Hagel says some of the top politicians in Washington hold regrettable views on how the Iraq war should end.

In a Thursday interview with CNN, Hagel criticized Republican nominee-in-waiting John McCain for framing the situation in Iraq as one that the US must 'win'.

"John (McCain), the President and the others have put the Iraqi situation in the wrong context. This isn't a win or lose," said Hagel.

"We shouldn't frame this up as a win-or-lose because, when we do that - and this is where I have a major disagreement with McCain, then on that basis we'll be there forever," expounded the Nebraska senator.

According to Hagel, it is up to the Iraqi people to decide what kind of government they want, not Washington.

The prominent lawmaker concluded that the next US president should feel bound to unite Washington and said Democratic candidate Barack Obama stands the best chance in this regard.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nebraska; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 110th; chuckhagel; hagel; handwringers; iraq
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To: april15Bendovr
We shouldn't frame this up as a win-or-lose

ahh the intelligence of Washington DC. I wonder how he plays chess? See how many of your opponents you can keep on the board?

21 posted on 03/31/2008 1:01:19 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: lonestar

Mike Gravel switched to the Libertarian, maybe Hagel and Paul can join him.


22 posted on 03/31/2008 1:01:53 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: april15Bendovr

What a freaking moron.


23 posted on 03/31/2008 1:06:42 PM PDT by svcw (I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
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To: babble-on; SMARTY; avacado; armymarinemom; mad_as_he$$; kromike; Williams; Hazwaste; ...


24 posted on 03/31/2008 1:07:08 PM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: BARLF
Why is that?

"Give 'em hell" Harry would be considered too conservative for the GOP nomination.

25 posted on 03/31/2008 1:07:40 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Vote! Vote for the conservative local, state, and national candidates of your choice, but VOTE!)
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To: april15Bendovr

Whoever helped elect this self-serving dufus needs to have their heads examined.

GET HIM OUTTA THERE.


26 posted on 03/31/2008 1:07:43 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Proud member of "Operation Chaos" having the T-shirt , ball cap and bumpersticker to prove it.)
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To: april15Bendovr

Chuck Hagel: proof that terminal stupidity is no roadblock to becoming a US Senator.


27 posted on 03/31/2008 1:08:02 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: april15Bendovr

Imagine if a leadind Senator would have taken that line in World War II with say France. Oh it should not be about win or lose, something can be worked out or the French can decide for themselves etc........
What silly nonsense.
In a world war you either win a battle or you lose a battle. There are no other options....
If Hagel does not understand that this is a world war then he has no right to be a Senator in America


28 posted on 03/31/2008 1:08:27 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Patriot Guard Riders - Standing for those that stood for us.)
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To: april15Bendovr

SAD SACK Hagel!! What a pathetic man. Is he MARRIED???


29 posted on 03/31/2008 1:09:11 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: april15Bendovr

He should be buried alongside Marx!


30 posted on 03/31/2008 1:10:56 PM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: Ann Archy

I am sure Ahmadinejad could find him a wife in Iran after this story.


31 posted on 03/31/2008 1:11:40 PM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: april15Bendovr
on that basis we'll be there forever

Hagel is way wrong about that. The USA will be there in the Gulf only until the oil is no longer important to civilization.

32 posted on 03/31/2008 1:12:58 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: april15Bendovr

He IS married and has a son named ZILLER. He also has some Iranian Group with Dennis Kuchinich!


33 posted on 03/31/2008 1:15:15 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: april15Bendovr

Gee! I wonder why you aren’t running for reelection this year Hagel?


34 posted on 03/31/2008 1:16:58 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: april15Bendovr
"We shouldn't frame this up as a win-or-lose because, when we do that - and this is where I have a major disagreement with McCain, then on that basis we'll be there forever," expounded the Nebraska senator.

You don't spend much time in Iraq, do you, Senator Idiot?

35 posted on 03/31/2008 1:17:01 PM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: april15Bendovr

Ok, this one is a stunner. And he got into office....how?? What is the matter with voters who would vote for such a dunce?


36 posted on 03/31/2008 1:23:24 PM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: april15Bendovr
Hagel: Who says we have to win Iraq?

While we're on the subject, where does it say you have to win elections?

No one.

37 posted on 03/31/2008 1:23:58 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: april15Bendovr

How post-modern and PC of Hagel. Maybe we could get Honorable Mention just for showing up?


38 posted on 03/31/2008 1:30:56 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: april15Bendovr

Speechless.


39 posted on 03/31/2008 1:35:52 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: april15Bendovr

What does ‘winning in Iraq’ actually mean?

When we fought the Second World War, winning was clearly defined (unconditional surrender of the Nazi Regime and the Tojo Regime).

We have the same problem in Iraq that we had in Vietnam - fuzzily defined objectives in a War of choice. We never fully outlined what ‘winning in Vietnam’ meant. We used metrics such as ‘number of enemies killed’ etc.

FDR had his fireside chats where he explained to the American people what exactly was being done. Churchill explained why the war had to be fought.

There has been a failure of communication, competence and imagination by this adminstration. How do we explain to the American people that five years of American occupation have tipped the strategic balance in favour of the Iranians? How do we explain to the American people that while senior American politicians sneak into Iraq unannounced, Ahmadinejad visits Iraq with full fanfare?

How do we explain to the American people that American blood has been shed to support a constitution that blatantly supports Islam as the source of law, that discriminates against Iraqi christians and Iraqi women? How do we explain to them that the ruling party in Iraq are allies of the Iranian regime?

Yes Saddam is gone, good. But did we bite off more than we could chew?

Now those who imagine that we will stay in Iraq the same way we stayed in Korea and Japan - forget it. Arabs are neither Koreans nor Japanese. Arabs do not like to be occupied by anyone for an extended period of time (just ask the Israelis).

We need to find a way to resolve this situation, quickly (use proxies if necessary) and get the hell out. Arabia is a ‘tar baby’.


40 posted on 03/31/2008 1:44:21 PM PDT by KingJaja
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