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Open letter regarding the Southern Baptist Global Warming "declaration"
xjcsa | March 12, 2008 | xjcsa

Posted on 03/28/2008 10:10:00 PM PDT by xjcsa

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To: norge
Well, one response would be that he was too fat to be spinning in his grave. He should have smoked for 40 years, but that would have been a sin.

Apparently double-posting a complete asshat comment like yours is just fine.

21 posted on 03/28/2008 11:26:49 PM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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The idea of global warming gave Al Gore a reason to keep living. When Baptist churches get into this, having an SUV will be a sin. When smoking came under fire, suddenly smoking was a sin. Dancing was fun so that became a sin. Having a glass of wine was nice, so that became a sin.

This world, in its early days, was hot, so it cooled, then it got realy, realy, cold, then it warmed up; it’s going to keep doing it’s thing of warming and cooling no matter what the creatures on it do. My son, who is a documentary film maker who lives in London, spent three months on the ice pack near the north pole a couple of years ago and it’s still really, really, cold and really, really, frozen. He did not see Al Gore there.


22 posted on 03/28/2008 11:32:56 PM PDT by Marcella (Will work in my rose garden (with wine) and not listen to McCain.)
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To: xjcsa
The Falwell brothers did *not* sign this statement; my letter was commending them for *not* signing the statement and urging them to actively fight against the Warmist fools. As far as I can tell they're solid men, unlikely to be led into this kind of idiocy.

Thanks for the clarification. How long will it take the Falwells to vociforously denounce the "environmental" loons?

23 posted on 03/29/2008 12:12:22 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: xjcsa

“The global warming movement is, in blunt terms, an evil, anti-human cult. Its aims are to impoverish developed nations and keep poor nations from improving their condition. “

You are one person who thoroughly understands what Global Warming really is about.


24 posted on 03/29/2008 4:39:19 AM PDT by RoadTest ( None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies - Isaiah)
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To: Marcella

I consider SUVs the dumbest vehicle ever to roll down the street, but I will fight to defend everyone’s right to own one.


25 posted on 03/29/2008 4:50:01 AM PDT by RoadTest ( None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies - Isaiah)
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To: pepsionice

Boy, I think you got it right. You must be a long time member in good standing. If this happens, which denomination should we conservative SBCers jump to?


26 posted on 03/29/2008 6:25:24 AM PDT by Tampa Caver
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To: xjcsa
I'm really concerned that now that Dr. Rogers, Dr. Falwell and other's that brought the SBC back to their roots are gone, we are going to see a much more moderate leadership.

Hopefully, Dr. Land will help to keep the boat upright for a long time.

27 posted on 03/29/2008 7:07:46 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Tampa Caver

My devout SBC children are now visiting First Evangecial.


28 posted on 03/29/2008 7:14:33 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: xjcsa
The global warming movement is, in blunt terms, an evil, anti-human cult.

I agree with this guy. A lot of good people are being suckered by the lies and half truths about globalony warming. Fortunately more real scientists and climatologists are coming out now with the truth, but the MSM doesn't want us to hear them so they aren't being allowed on the Fox or CNN talking head shows or guesting on big time TV talk shows.

The head of NASA recently said that although the atmosphere is warming slightly it's not because of what man is doing to the atmosphere. He confirmed that the surface of the sun goes through periodic cycles of heating and cooling, and naturally those cycles affect Earth's atmosphere. Right now we are going through a relatively minor climate change, but the warming cycle may be reversed in a few years and a cooling cycle may begin. Within a few years the ecofreak alarmists who want us to go back to the stone age in order to stop global warming may be weeping and wailing and gnashing their teeth about global cooling.

Water vapor makes up 97% of all greenhouse gasses in earth's atmosphere, and man made CO2 makes up less than 1/10 of 1% of the other 3%. That's an almost insignificant amount by comparison with the amount of naturally occurring CO2. According to some climatologists whose articles I have read, nothing humans could do short of simultaneously exploding hundreds of nuclear bombs would bring about a significant change in our atmosphere's temperature. And that change would be to a much colder climate, not global warming, because for many months or years the sun's energy would be partially blocked from reaching the earth's surface by dense clouds of dust and smoke.

I'm not a scientist and I don't play one on TV, but common sense tells me to be extremely skeptical of near-hysterical claims that the almost infinitesimally small percentage of atmospheric CO2 made by man is causing a major climate change on earth.

29 posted on 03/29/2008 8:19:37 AM PDT by epow (Obama for President, in your heart you know he's the Wright's man for the job.)
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To: xjcsa

This declaration is totally congruent with Rev Wright’s declarations and both contribute to the destruction of Christianity and so are being vigorously reported by the MSM.


30 posted on 03/29/2008 8:21:56 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: xjcsa
He's been backpedaling...sort of...but he says he still stands by the text of the Declaration.

Some one who he trusts should get him straightened out on this globaloney nonsense, he has too much influence on Southern Baptist preachers and the 16 million SBC members to go on unknowingly spreading the global warming lies.

He has probably never heard the other side of the story. You know, the side that isn't hysterical and isn't lying though it's teeth about man's microscopically tiny role, if any, in atmospheric change.

31 posted on 03/29/2008 8:31:55 AM PDT by epow (Obama for President, in your heart you know he's the Wright's man for the job.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Thanks for the clarification. How long will it take the Falwells to vociforously denounce the "environmental" loons?

Actually it wouldn't surprise me if they've already done so, but I haven't heard anything. I don't live near their ministries anymore, so I don't always hear things immediately.

32 posted on 03/29/2008 8:49:18 AM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: Lancey Howard
Jerry Falwell is spinning in his grave. How did such a great man raise such pathetic nincompoops?

Unless I missed something in the article it's not Falwell son's who are endorsing the global warming crap, it's the heads of the Southern Baptist Convention of which the Thomas Road Church is a member. Their old Dad is probably shaking his head so fast his crown keeps falling off.

There are a great many very fine, Godly ministers and bible teachers serving in SBC churches and seminaries, but it's a top heavy organization and the people at the top are often out of sync with the political and social beliefs and opinions of the local church pastors and congregations.

I left the SBC and joined an evangelical, bible-believing, independent Baptist church over forty years ago, and I have never regretted it for a NY minute.

33 posted on 03/29/2008 8:51:12 AM PDT by epow (Obama for President, in your heart you know he's the Wright's man for the job.)
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To: RoadTest
I consider SUVs the dumbest vehicle ever to roll down the street, but I will fight to defend everyone’s right to own one.

You sound like me.

I have never understood the craze for SUVs, but if people who like them are willing to pay through the gijjywah in initial cost and high fuel costs to have them it's not my place to tell them they should know better than to follow the crowd into every fad that comes along.

What vehicle fad will be next after the SUV becomes old hat, a Peterbilt sleeper cab truck in every suburban garage? Or maybe a civilian version of an Abrams tank? That 120mm cannon and the .50 caliber BMG might come in handy when the freeway gets jammed up at rush hour. I wonder what the EPA mileage rating will be.

34 posted on 03/29/2008 9:16:04 AM PDT by epow (Obama for President, in your heart you know he's the Wright's man for the job.)
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To: pepsionice

“bring the SBC membership to half of what it is today. Make the Republicans lose a huge segment of their support”

Either the members that left join another church or start one of their own. That’s what Baptists excel at.

Don’t think this is going to affect Republican support, those that “defect” weren’t really Republican to begin with.


35 posted on 03/29/2008 4:25:27 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: swmobuffalo

Actually....the ones that defect from the SBC...are the “real” Republicans, and the Global Warmers that stay are the non-Republicans. You won’t recognize the SBC congregations in five years...they will be so ate up with saving the environment and reciting Bible verses as they do it.


36 posted on 03/29/2008 9:09:47 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Coldwater Creek

Off Ridgeway Circle?


37 posted on 03/30/2008 7:04:59 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (It's truly bad when your Savior in November is Judas Himself.)
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To: WKB; streetpreacher; Ottofire; marinamuffy; flynmudd; twonie; Peace4EarthNow; Nightshift; ...

Baptist ping


38 posted on 03/30/2008 7:07:32 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (It's truly bad when your Savior in November is Judas Himself.)
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To: xjcsa

Baptists speak only for themselves. The convention as whole has not endorsed this. Even if it did, it would not bind any individual churches, the state conventions or any Baptist.

Baptists will split over the preacher’s wife’s hairdo, so if the convention ever passed such a resolution, it would be halved within two weeks. And there wouldn’t be any of the nonsense our Episcopalian brothers are going through about who gets the church property, either.


39 posted on 03/30/2008 7:21:10 AM PDT by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: Sybeck1

Yep that the one!

One moved over to Germantown Baptist and the others are still at Bellevue.

Family get togethers are really strained these days.


40 posted on 03/30/2008 7:25:12 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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