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Obama Suggests Jesus Christ Not the Only Way to Heaven
Christian Post ^ | March 27 2008 | Jennifer Riley

Posted on 03/27/2008 4:40:22 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: Ken H
In your own personal opinion, is it right that Medved should suffer forever? I know what your Mythology says, I want to know your personal opinion.

I just accept that it will be for the best. It's really his choice and it could be what he wants (in a spiritual sense).

221 posted on 03/28/2008 11:56:51 AM PDT by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: DaveMSmith
Well, if it turns out that you're right and that I have to burn in Hell along with Hitler, Michael Medved, Stalin and President Bush, then I'll just have to accept my fate. I just believe that because we haven't rejected Christ, President Bush and I will find Salvation and that Hitler, Michael Medved and Stalin will pay for rejecting Christ and in essence spitting in His face.

So, we'll see.

222 posted on 03/28/2008 12:03:10 PM PDT by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

You sound very mixed up (disturbed). Why do you hate President Bush?


223 posted on 03/28/2008 12:04:25 PM PDT by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: Ken H
So Jewish Holocaust victims who kept their faith to the end are doomed to Hell?

From Joseph Telushkin, renowned Jewish writer/scholar:

According to Judaism, what happens in the next world? As noted, on this subject there is little material. Some of the suggestions about afterlife in Jewish writings and folklore are even humorous. In heaven, one story teaches, Moses sits and teaches Torah all day long. For the righteous people (the tzaddikim), this is heaven; for the evil people, it is hell. Another folktale teaches that in both heaven and hell, human beings cannot bend their elbows. In hell people are perpetually starved; in heaven each person feeds his neighbor.

All attempts to describe heaven and hell are, of course, speculative. Because Judaism believes that G-d is good, it believes that G-d rewards good people; it does not believe that Adolf Hitler and his victims share the same fate. Beyond that, it is hard to assume much more. We are asked to leave afterlife in G-d's hands.

224 posted on 03/28/2008 12:04:54 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: molette67
John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:17

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.

John 3:18

He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Don of God

I will stick with what the good book says. IF Barack Hussein Oboma is a true Christian, then he would stick with the good book too.

225 posted on 03/28/2008 12:36:39 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: jimmyray
Again, this is not the religion forum. I was responding generally to the article at the top of the thread here. I agree with Obama's belief in this case. I find it refreshing because it's a long held belief for me -- see my profile page.

Jesus Christ IS God. I think I've said that. I don't know Him to be so egotistical to care what name He's called by.

226 posted on 03/28/2008 12:41:44 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Nothin' worse than a leaky dame)
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To: do the dhue

ya think he is a nutjob!!!!


227 posted on 03/28/2008 12:44:17 PM PDT by molette67
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To: molette67
If he aint, his mentor and preacher sure as heck is.
228 posted on 03/28/2008 1:18:01 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Sherman Logan
new improved model to which all men have access, including the Jews.

Absolutely. But as I recall under Jewish Law sins are not forgiven, but merely rolled over until the next sacrifice.

Sadly I once heard Billy Graham, on the Larry King Show, say that he thought there were many paths to God. Larry was grilling him with the same questions that are in this thread.

229 posted on 03/28/2008 1:42:01 PM PDT by itsahoot (Gingrich: "We don't have a peace process. We have a surrender process." (Duncan Hunter gets it.))
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To: jimmyray
Not if they keep the Law,p> I know it sounds paradoxical but don't forget the 600,000. God made specific promises to the Jews, many Christians mistakenly believe that Christians became the recipient of those promises. I think we are in the time when we will shortly know who is correct.

Christians are not addresses in the Book of Revelation after the third chapter.

230 posted on 03/28/2008 1:49:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (Gingrich: "We don't have a peace process. We have a surrender process." (Duncan Hunter gets it.))
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To: itsahoot
Christians are not addresses in the Book of Revelation after the third chapter.

Christians should never be addresses! ;-) Christians as a universal body are not addressed in the first 3 chapters, either. The letters are to 7 specific, historical churches that existed when John wrote the letter.

What 600,000? You mean the 144,000? They are following Jesus, BTW. Rev 14: 4. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb

Christians are martyred throughout the tribulation, see Rev 12:17 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

231 posted on 03/29/2008 12:15:45 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: DaveMSmith
I don't know Him to be so egotistical to care what name He's called by.

The burden of proof is upon you, for the scripture, as mentioned above, specifically calls His name Jesus, at whose name every knee will bow, and is the only name given by which we must be saved.

A Christian's opinions on Theology that directly contradict scripture are wonderous things, I must say.

232 posted on 03/29/2008 12:20:27 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I think Obama thinks that if you vote for him you will surely go to heaven.

that is what this really comes down to as far as he is concerned.

As for me I know I need Jesus.

Without a doubt!

233 posted on 03/29/2008 12:25:57 AM PDT by right way right
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To: Abigail Adams
Matthew 22:34-40 34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, 36 "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?" 37 Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

'...[T]o do good to the neighbour for the sake of God, thus with God and from God, is what is called religion.' AR 484 - Swedenborg

The Lord loves all, equally. People judge and condemn themselves. The Lord's 'wrath' is an appearance to those that have chosen hell for themselves.

234 posted on 03/29/2008 9:07:19 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Nothin' worse than a leaky dame)
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