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1 posted on 03/27/2008 1:11:48 PM PDT by obamahorror
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To: obamahorror

TYPICAL.


2 posted on 03/27/2008 1:12:36 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: obamahorror

If you read the methodology of most polls they all over sample African Americans. They do this because they say African Americans vote in a larger percentage in relation to their percentage of the population.

African Americans make up about 12% of the population but most polls sample them at about 22%.


3 posted on 03/27/2008 1:16:45 PM PDT by avacado (Thomas Sowell: "Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.")
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To: obamahorror

I believe they clarified and stated that they over-sampled African Americans but they weren’t over represented in the results.


5 posted on 03/27/2008 1:19:25 PM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: obamahorror

How and why should we believe a pro-clinton blogger>


6 posted on 03/27/2008 1:19:25 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (" Nobody likes weepy meat." -- Mayor Quimby)
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To: obamahorror

The word is “shill.”

It is “shill” for Obama.

Hillary is shrill.


7 posted on 03/27/2008 1:19:43 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: obamahorror
OK...So starting :

NBC/Wall Street Journal Embarrassed on Oversampling

AND then: Polls Show Obama Damaged by Reverend Wright

March 25, 2008 12:28 PM ET | Michael Barone | Permanent Link

******************EXCERPT*******************

Before the Wright revelations, Rasmussen in its nightly tracking showed Obama ahead of Clinton nationally 48 percent to 41 percent, a statistically significant 7 percentage point lead. On March 18, the day of Obama's Philadelphia speech, that was reduced to a 45 percent to 44 percent lead. The most recent results, reported March 24, showed Clinton ahead 46 percent to 44 percent. In other words, over two weeks, Obama was down 4 percentage points, Clinton up 5 percentage points—major movement, given the usually glacially show movement in Rasmussen numbers.

You can see something similar in Rasmussen's favorable and unfavorable numbers for the three surviving candidates. The table below shows the appropriate numbers for favorable and unfavorable:

  Obama Clinton McCain
March 13 51%-46% 48%-50% 51%-45%
March 18 52%-44% 47%-50% 53%-43%
March 24 46%-52% 42%-55% 55%-42%

 

 

 

 

Clinton's numbers have become somewhat more unfavorable. But the major difference is that McCain's fav/unfavs have become marginally more favorable, while Obama's have become significantly less favorable.

8 posted on 03/27/2008 1:20:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: obamahorror

msnbc disputes this:

The main sample for the survey was a cross section of 700 registered voters nationally. As is the case with all of our usual polls, this sample is statistically representative of voters across the country, accurately reflecting the gender, age, educational, geographical, and racial makeup of the electorate. The column in the topline document labeled “All Voters”, as well as nearly all of the subgroups listed in the survey crosstabs, are among these cross section of 700. Eleven percent (11%) of these interviews — or 77 interviews — were with African Americans, which accurately reflects African Americans’ proportion of the electorate. Thus, African Americans are NOT over-represented in our national sample.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/


9 posted on 03/27/2008 1:20:18 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: obamahorror

Who you gonna believe? Obama, or a pro-Clinton blogger?

Tough choice, huh?


12 posted on 03/27/2008 1:22:13 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: obamahorror

I wonder how her campaign knew to look at the sampling technique? I wonder why no one in the MSM ever questions the sample methods when a Republican is shown to be behind in the polls?


13 posted on 03/27/2008 1:23:08 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: obamahorror

are you really expecting us to believe a random pro-clinton blogger?

clintoonites are among us.


15 posted on 03/27/2008 1:24:15 PM PDT by cdchik123
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Explanation from MSNBC:

"As you know, the sample for the March 24-25 poll on race included an “oversample” of 100 African American voters. There has been some confusion as to exactly how these extra interviews were integrated into the survey; we hope this memorandum will clear up any misconceptions."

"The main sample for the survey was a cross section of 700 registered voters nationally. As is the case with all of our usual polls, this sample is statistically representative of voters across the country, accurately reflecting the gender, age, educational, geographical, and racial makeup of the electorate. The column in the topline document labeled “All Voters”, as well as nearly all of the subgroups listed in the survey crosstabs, are among these cross section of 700. Eleven percent (11%) of these interviews -- or 77 interviews -- were with African Americans, which accurately reflects African Americans’ proportion of the electorate. Thus, African Americans are NOT over-represented in our national sample."

In addition to this national cross section, we interviewed an extra 100 African Americans to analyze the opinions of this group with a greater degree of statistical reliability. We combined these 100 only with the 77 African Americans that naturally fell into our national sample, for a total of 177 interviews with African Americans; these extra interviews were not combined with the full national sample of 700. The column in the topline document labeled “African Americans” shows the responses of these 177 respondents, as do the subgroups in the crosstabs for African Americans, African-American men, and African-American women.

The table below shows the margins of error for the three groups whose responses are shown in the topline document:

National cross section of voters: 700 interviews, +/- 3.7%
White voters: 520 interviews, +/- 4.3%
African-American voters: 177 interviews, +/- 7.4%

17 posted on 03/27/2008 1:27:15 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: obamahorror

Never take ANY “survey” at face value.

Unless a scientist administers it, which almost never happens, then it is biased in favor of what the surveyor wants to believe.


20 posted on 03/27/2008 1:29:37 PM PDT by subterfuge (Obama will NOT get the nomination.)
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To: obamahorror

I saw this poll quoted earlier on the Lucianne.com board. Most of those commenters didn’t believe it either.

I knew something was up because for anyone to claim that the Revrun Wright story hasn’t hurt Obama is to lie like a lying dog on a rug. Forgive my mixed metaphors.

No way, Jose, is the Revrun Wright thing not going to hurt Obama....no way, no way. White people, no matter what they may tell the pollsters, are NOT going to vote for Obama.

I’m telling you, with the ethylonol scam using up all the corn crop and this Dem tragedy of a primary, this country’s going to run out of popcorn by the August conventions.


25 posted on 03/27/2008 1:31:23 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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The mnore people find out about the truth of Wright and Obama's core beliefs as preached at the Trinity church, the more negative impact it will have on Obama. As well it should.

THE TRUTH ABOUT BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY AND THE TRINITY CHURCH

31 posted on 03/27/2008 1:35:01 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: obamahorror; Old Sarge; darkwing104

Why would anybody believe a pro-hitlery blogger?


37 posted on 03/27/2008 1:42:33 PM PDT by 50mm (:-O :-o - :-| ZZZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz)
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To: obamahorror
Why is this surprising?

The MSM is in LOVE with Senator B. (whose name must NEVER be spoken) Obama.

Heck, they have even been more critical of Slick Hillie than Obama (and ObamaMomma).

42 posted on 03/27/2008 2:03:32 PM PDT by stockstrader (Obama's "I HAVE AN EXCUSE" speech most certainly was "Eloquent, but Outrageous".)
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To: obamahorror

Polls are not conducted in the public interest. They are conducted for money. Political interest groups commission and pay for those polls. To think that they are honest and reflect honest responses is foolish. Why would a pollster report to his client that all hope is lost when that pollster can make a lot more money by prolonging the inevitable with indecisive or varying results?


43 posted on 03/27/2008 2:05:58 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com do I really have to say it???

46 posted on 03/27/2008 3:06:39 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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