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S.C. bill would ban lap dances
Associated Press ^ | Mar. 27, 2008

Posted on 03/27/2008 10:15:15 AM PDT by kingattax

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Exotic dancers would have to stay six feet from strip club customers and those businesses would have to close at midnight under a bill being considered by House lawmakers.

Scott Bergthold is a Tennessee-based lawyer who told a House subcommittee on Thursday that late operating hours for strip clubs creates more crime and problems for police.

Bergthold says stripper dances may be protected by courts, but not when they touch customers, which is commonly known as a lap dance.

He says there's no constitutional right to lap dances.

The House Judiciary Committee will next take up the proposal


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: bergthold; nannynannybooboo
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To: kingattax
Exotic dancers would have to stay six feet from strip club customers and those businesses would have to close at midnight

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Well Hell! They's no reason to go to Myrtle Beach anymore. Vegas here I come Baby. (:^o)

41 posted on 03/27/2008 11:03:42 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: ICE-FLYER

So.. lets get back to this law here.

Tell me.. how will the crime go up for the police to enforce if a stripper is on my lap? I will not be doing anything when that dancer is doing the dance on me..

This law is a feel-good decency law.. pure and simple.


42 posted on 03/27/2008 11:03:50 AM PDT by Kitanis (Kitanis,)
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To: arderkrag
I don’t think it’s the people’s right to ban anyhting on decency. It’s only your right to outlaw an action if that action interferes with your rights. Period.

I disagree. It is any states right to do things with the law that uphold a standard too, especially if they see it as a problem or a harm for the citizens of that state. Except where specifically enumerated in the constitution they can ban things and activity and do so all the time. You just disagree with this one in particular and need to take it up as a cause and have the effort overturned or ended before it is enacted. Don't emotionalize the issue.

43 posted on 03/27/2008 11:04:12 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: kingattax
The U.S. Congress wastes it's time with the baseball steroids scandal and the South Carolina legislature wastes time worrying about lap dances.

I guess the positive is it keeps legislators from doing as much damage as usual while they're in session.

44 posted on 03/27/2008 11:06:20 AM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Lap dances in a strip club are not being done in public. And decency laws are socialist filth repackaged under the guise of good intentions.


45 posted on 03/27/2008 11:08:11 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Kitanis
So.. lets get back to this law here. Tell me.. how will the crime go up for the police to enforce if a stripper is on my lap? I will not be doing anything when that dancer is doing the dance on me...This law is a feel-good decency law.. pure and simple.

I don't have to. Its simply a standard the state will either pass in its support of or deny in its deafeat of. You, lik anther poster, are getting emotioal about it suposing it is the state meddling with your good time. It is my guess that you neither want it banned, called immoral or disparraged in any way. You may as well start in with the "conscenting adults" thing and the "Well I'm single" argument too. They will not matter. The state has a right to govern itself as the people see fit. IF they want this standard it wil pass, if they do not care or do not want it it will fail.

46 posted on 03/27/2008 11:08:43 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER

I’m not emotionalizing. I see it that way with all “decency” issues, even if I personally see something as indecent. It should be allowed as longs as a citizen’s rights are not affected.


47 posted on 03/27/2008 11:09:27 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: arderkrag
Lap dances in a strip club are not being done in public. And decency laws are socialist filth repackaged under the guise of good intentions.

Well at least you reveal yourself here. You want your"good time" complete with booze and hot willing chicks who sell their bodies to you at a price. Yeah...thats sooo not filth as you call it.

But I digress. You don't like it fine..I SUPPORT your right to fight the law, but the state has a complete right to make such decency laws. If you disagree with this under the decency law and call all of them filth then NAMBLA ought to be glad they have you. So should all streakers, and even those who demand that you tax fund their porno surfing in the library where the littlekids go to check out books. Remember...concenting adults and you're single arguments...they will help you emotionalize the issue past their SOCIALIST FILTH.

48 posted on 03/27/2008 11:12:58 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Actually, I’ve never even been to a strip club. As I said in #47, I feel this way even when I think the issue under discussion is indecent.


49 posted on 03/27/2008 11:14:45 AM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: arderkrag
I’m not emotionalizing. I see it that way with all “decency” issues, even if I personally see something as indecent. It should be allowed as longs as a citizen’s rights are not affected

I isagree. I think you use the emotional side of rights as I feel a lot of Libertarians do. Where I see the real difference between the kind of conservative I am and the kind you are is that morality and virtue should be embraced in the community and that being so if they choose to embrace a standard that does not harm and does protect even though it restricts it is a good thing.

No, I do not see that ALL such things will be good. We will wrestle with such things and the people will ultimately decide unless they fail to do so and a judge wrongfully gets to decide against them or at them (you pick) If you feel that the lap dancing issue harms no one...stand up and enumerate the ways women and men are served by it. If you can not convince enough of your fellow men and women to support it then I would say you will be submitting to a new law or moving to a state where this precious right of expression and pleasure can be obtained.

50 posted on 03/27/2008 11:18:11 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER

What a load of totalitarian bull crap! If you don’t like it than don’t go into the privately owned establishment that has this. You do know that this is supposed to be a free country right, not a theocracy? That means the freedom to engage in activities that you personally may not approve of as long as no one is getting hurt. Amazing concept isn’t it? You’re damn right that I will defend this, as anyone with a firm understanding of freedom would do.

If this offends your delicate sensibilities or sense of decency then too bad, it’s the price you pay for living in a free country.


51 posted on 03/27/2008 11:21:09 AM PDT by frankiep (Democrats base their ideology on the premise that you are too stupid to do anything for yourself.)
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To: kingattax

Moral Omnipotent Busybody’s at it Again


52 posted on 03/27/2008 11:22:06 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: kingattax
True. But the bill tries to address a non-problem. It should be up to the customer and the dancer. The state should just butt out of it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

53 posted on 03/27/2008 11:31:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: CholeraJoe

I think you should organize a march on the capital and shove dollars into legislators pants. I bet you’d get TV coverage.


54 posted on 03/27/2008 11:32:52 AM PDT by y6162
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To: CholeraJoe

As Hillary Clinton has said, “you are just going to WASTE that money and THAT my friend is government’s job” < /s >


55 posted on 03/27/2008 11:33:49 AM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Obama)
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To: colorado tanker

The damage isn’t minimal. It is witchhunting of small target citizens while the government abuses its power to do things like meet with Saddam to prevent the war in Iraq ON Saddam’s dollar and payoffs.


56 posted on 03/27/2008 11:35:31 AM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Obama)
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To: goldstategop

Go to the White House and grope the aides. According to NOW the first grope is free.


57 posted on 03/27/2008 11:36:58 AM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Obama)
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To: arderkrag
Since freedom of speech has long been interpreted as freedom of expression (as it should be), lap dances fall under it.

I think they would have trouble banning lap dances in general, however I suspect that they can ban them as a service done for a fee.

They can't ban sex, but they can ban prostitution, and I would think that this would be similar.

I think doing so is a waste of time, but I don't see why South Carolina shouldn't be able to ban it.

58 posted on 03/27/2008 11:50:30 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic

Are kissing booths banned at carnivals?


59 posted on 03/27/2008 12:30:21 PM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Obama)
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To: KansasCanadian
The site has a poem Amber Smith wrote for those who have been victimized form one too many Ron Jeremy movies.

Does she mean their viewers?

60 posted on 03/27/2008 12:47:02 PM PDT by Erasmus (Nihilism never amounted to anything.)
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