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What is remarkable is that the Dutch have publicly worried about their already high suicide rate--including a disturbing trend toward increased youth suicide. But what does any of this matter. Once a society takes the first culture of death injection, it will find that no matter how liberal the suicide/euthanasia rules, it is never liberal enough.

This is the tragic truth.

1 posted on 03/26/2008 5:17:24 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 03/26/2008 5:17:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 03/26/2008 5:18:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 03/26/2008 5:18:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Damn straight.


5 posted on 03/26/2008 5:19:58 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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“This practice was explicitly sanctioned by the Dutch Supreme Court in 1993 in the case of psychiatrist Boutdewijn Chabot, who assisted the suicide of a patient—not because she had cancer, not because she was even physically ill—but because she was in desperate grief over the deaths of her two sons.”

Even more striking was the case where the courts refused to convict a Dutch doctor for his role in euthenising a teenage girl who was suffering from... ANOREXIA. Therefore, she was not terminally ill, indeed, not really physically unhealty, but mentally ill.

She made a video tape, before her death, requesting to be killed, saying that since she was 12 she had anorexia and “had grown very slowly toward my death.” Apparently, the court was very influenced by this tape.

I thought she should have been removed from that doctor’s care, placed in a pyschiatric unit, and given treatment. Instead, she was murdered.


6 posted on 03/26/2008 5:26:01 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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Good golly...
I hope this article contains some gross exaggerations. Otherwise it makes it sound like the Dutch have loaded their 'civilization' onto a bus and driven it off a cliff...
I knew things were getting bad in certain parts of Western Europe (the lack of fear, reverence, and worship of the Almighty God will have a tendency to do that to you) - but I didn't think it had veered this far off the highway...
9 posted on 03/26/2008 5:32:03 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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Doctors there now provide euthanasia/assisted suicide for the terminally ill who ask for it ... and, according to several Dutch studies, even about 900 people per year of people who have not asked to be killed. The Dutch even have a name for non voluntary euthanasia--"termination without request or consent"--which is technically murder but is rarely prosecuted

How wonderfully progressive these people are. Why can't we be more like the Europeans?

10 posted on 03/26/2008 5:32:38 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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I call them the Death Eaters.

We have plenty of Death Eaters in the Democratic Party, our colleges, universities, and sadly our government schools. The NEA is thoroughly infiltrated with Death Eaters. The liberal/Marxist media and the arts are rotten with them, and let's not forget the homosexual activists, and feminazis.

They remind me of the movie, “The Night of the Living Dead”. They are out to eat us and our kids.

12 posted on 03/26/2008 5:35:13 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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Astonishing and sickening. I love the “termination without request or consent.” Perhaps some relatives of the deceased should perform a “TWORC” on the physicians who carried out the initial procedure. It might come to a screeching halt.


13 posted on 03/26/2008 5:37:55 PM PDT by jammer
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Importantly, I question whether it should be called a “Culture of Death”, instead of the “Loss of the Culture of Life”.

To explain, why was Dr. Frankenstein a character of ill repute in the medical community? He rejected the ethics of life, but not in favor of “science”, or to “defy death”, or so that some great and transcendental majesty would be discovered.

He rejected the ethics of life, *because* he rejected the ethics of life. He embraced no new ethos, he wanted to be outside of ethics. He reached from the moral into the immoral, but not to become immoral, but to become amoral.

This is a deadly important distinction, because many scientists and doctors today follow in the footsteps of Dr. Frankenstein. They seek to transcend ethics and morality, because they are convinced that such things should not “hold them back.”

But hold them back from what? Ethics and morality hold them back *only* from having either ethics or morality. They gain nothing by discarding them. All they do is lose. And while they might think they gain something intangible, they don’t.

If you put scientists in a room with a big red button, and told them they would destroy the entire world just by pushing it, many would push the button. And they would be disappointed that the world was not destroyed. This is the absence of ethics and morality.

Not just life loses its value, but everything loses its value without ethics and morality. Yet they seek this state of being. And the way they think it is achieved is by crossing over from morality to immorality. From ethics to criminality. From right to wrong. To balance these and other dichotomies, and by doing so, to neutralize them.

This then, is not a “Culture of Death”, it is a lack of, the loss of, the “Culture of Life”. They say that it is “scientific”, to do so. It is not.

Just in the 20th Century, there has been a complete collapse of medical ethics, time and again, across the world. Eugenics, treating humans as if they were animals, in most of the world’s “modern” nations. Inhuman experiments by doctors on humans in death camps. The infliction of disease and the denial of treatment, in things like denying children vitamins to cure pellagra, the Tuskegee experiment, and involuntary radiation testing on patients.

Right now, there are hospitals in several American cities that have been “authorized” to try experimental treatments in their emergency rooms, instead of treatments known to work. Scientists seek to make “near human” animals, sharing almost all the human DNA, on which to experiment, with absolute control over their lives and deaths.

Medical doctors are the worst Frankensteins, precisely because they can directly “play God” with human lives. But other scientists are close behind, less able, if not less willing, to be amoral, and to harm human lives.

It is important also to know that amorality seeks to expand its domain, and celebrates itself. It seeks to entice those who still have the vestiges of ethics and morality, into the “freedom” of inhumanity, cruelty, and unfeeling insensitivity. It seeks to violate rules established to keep it in check, and it says rules are “wrong”, because they inhibit the “freedom” of amorality.

It is no surprise that once permitted, euthanasia spreads unchecked. Among its practitioners, they see nothing as wrong in issuing themselves weapons with which to murder as they see fit, without hesitation or remorse. Even out in the public street, were they to see an old woman with a walker, to shove a syringe of poison into her neck for no other reason than whim.

Because in the absence of ethics and morality, all that remains is the action of whim. Why did you kill her? Why not? In life she was nothing important, and in death she is nothing important.

There is no “Culture of Death”, or really, there is no culture in inflicting pain, disease, and death. But there is no science or medicine in it either, because without ethics and morality, science and medicine are meaningless as well.


16 posted on 03/26/2008 6:11:05 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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So they recognize a rogue state in Europe - Kosovo - and then complain because that rogue state is the center of heroin transfer to the infidels in the west.

Death wish anyone?


17 posted on 03/26/2008 6:14:42 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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And sadly, these souls will be in Hell for eternity, but no one warns them of that in these evil days.
Jesus says, “I have come that they may have life, and have it in all fullness.” John 10:10. The Christian witness through suffering is a very powerful witness that gives glory to God. Pope John Paul was an excellent example of this.


18 posted on 03/26/2008 6:27:46 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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