Posted on 03/26/2008 8:54:27 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
Countries urged to see 'true face' of Dalai Lama
By Qin Jize (China Daily)
Updated: 2008-03-26 07:10
Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang yesterday again urged the international community to see the Dalai Lama's "true face" and offer no support for his secessionist activities.
Qin made the remarks in response to US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's recent call for China to consider a new policy to address the Tibet issue and to start talks with the Dalai Lama.
US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi also visited the Dalai Lama last week.
Qin said the position of just a few countries did not represent that of the international community.
More than 100 nations have expressed their support and understanding of the Chinese government's attitude to protecting the lives and property of its citizens from violent riots, he said.
Qin said the central government's policy toward the Dalai Lama is consistent and explicit, saying it not only listens to what he says but, more importantly, observes what he does.
China yesterday also criticized a British newspaper's report that linked the Beijing Olympics with the Berlin Games of 1936, saying the story is an insult to Chinese citizens and to the people of the world.
A report published in the British newspaper the Sunday Times said China is holding the Olympics for the same reason Adolf Hitler did in 1936, as an opportunity to collect accolades.
Qin said the Beijing Olympics is a magnificent sports meeting, and people from all nations have expressed their wishes to use it as an opportunity to enhance global understanding, friendship and cooperation.
"The Olympic torch symbolizes humankind's noble ideals and beautiful aspirations," Qin said.
" It also casts light on the gloomy mentality of some people, which will help the common people see their true face," he said.
"The Beijing Olympic Games must be a success with all the efforts made by the people of the
Your reply makes you look like a fool. ; )
Comparing your posts to the article by Joshua Michael Schrei you clearly know far less about Tibetans and history. His writing shows a far greater objectivity, more detailed sourcing (he doesn't rely on "I have read") and a use of a reasoned faculty that you have no concept of and that isn't hard to see.
Ohhhhh, you studied in college!?! Good credibility, perfesser
As opposed to your source of knowledge which is apparently limited to wikipedia and Students for a Free Tibet?
Your sophomoric insults and childish comments reveal you to be the only fool.
And Wikipedia (lol) and several books written by Tibetans (not westerners who never set foot in Asia) and from several Tibetan lamas born in Tibet that I know personally and whose personal testimonies I have read. Your childish insults don't diminish the difference anyone can see between your views and the views of the author I cited.
The author makes his own case and he certainly does more to substantiate it than to say "I read a Cambridge History of China." So far that is all you have offered. Not even one cite from the almighty source.
The author makes his own case and he certainly does more to substantiate it than to say "I read a Cambridge History of China." So far that is all you have offered. Not even one cite from the almighty source. I'd like to see you cite where I stated that I had read a Cambridge History of China. Even though I have, I didn't state that. Obviously you lack critical reading skills. As for citations, it's a book; not a web page.
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As opposed to your source of knowledge which is apparently limited to wikipedia and Students for a Free Tibet?And Wikipedia (lol) and several books written by Tibetans (not westerners who never set foot in Asia) and from several Tibetan lamas born in Tibet that I know personally and whose personal testimonies I have read. Your childish insults don't diminish the difference anyone can see between your views and the views of the author I cited.
All books. How much time have YOU spent in Tibet or China for that matter? Speak Chinese? Fact of the matter is, you know nothing about my views other than the fact that I do not support Tibetan independence under current circumstances. However, you've made the incorrect assumption that I have an affection for the Chinese government which couldn't be any further from the truth.
And Wikipedia (lol) and several books written by Tibetans (not westerners who never set foot in Asia) and from several Tibetan lamas born in Tibet that I know personally and whose personal testimonies I have read.
Let's take a look at yours.
Oh, by all means, do tell what makes you such an authority on Chinese history?
Is that your idea of a scholarly rebuttal of an opposing point?
I'd like to see you cite where I stated that I had read a Cambridge History of China. Even though I have, I didn't state that. Obviously you lack critical reading skills.
Semantic nitpicking is your idea of critical thinking skills? The only thing you have offered as a source, other than Wikipedia, has been The Cambridge History of China. You now say you have read it which you are apparently telling us is some kind of revelation that you hadn't shared before. Therefore my thinking that you had was only an assumption on my part that had no reasonable basis? IOWs you expect to be able to put forth sources you haven't read and have your argument be perceived as credible.
Keep going. I couldn't possibly make you look more foolish than you are doing to yourself. ; )
Your own words on this thread are what I and others have to go by and they paint a telling picture of what you think. If the picture is inaccurate it is the painter's fault. Take some personal responsibility.
Not all books. Your critical reading skills are poor. Go back and reread what I said.
Post #53. "As I said, I don't get my history from the internet. I suggest you pick up a copy of the Cambridge History of China."
Post #57 "The same could more easily be said about the Cambridge history of China. I'll be waiting for your unbiased / academic sourcres."
Post #102 "I've never claimed to be an expert on anything related to Tibet, or China for that matter. I merely stated that I am well read on Chinese history as it was part of my studies in college."
Why would anyone possibly think that you had actually read The Cambridge History of China? /s
It now seems very doubtful that you have.
Post #53. "As I said, I don't get my history from the internet. I suggest you pick up a copy of the Cambridge History of China."
Post #57 "The same could more easily be said about the Cambridge history of China. I'll be waiting for your unbiased / academic sourcres."
Post #102 "I've never claimed to be an expert on anything related to Tibet, or China for that matter. I merely stated that I am well read on Chinese history as it was part of my studies in college."
Why would anyone possibly think that you had actually read The Cambridge History of China? /s
Like I said, where did I specifically state that I had read the Cambridge History of China? I can see three instances of suggesting it to others.
And Wikipedia (lol) and several books written by Tibetans (not westerners who never set foot in Asia) and from several Tibetan lamas born in Tibet that I know personally and whose personal testimonies I have read.
Your analogy is full of crap.
Tibet: Violently conquered by China in the 40's-50's and exploited to no end. Tibetans are second class people after the Han Chinese.
Texas: Petitioned for annexation and was granted in 1845. Yankees coming down here better pack their manners.
Post #66 "Well aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. The irony here is that you don't see it. I'm still waiting for those unbiased / academic links."
Interesting challenge since you haven't provided one.
Post #91 "I’ve actually lived in China and know quite a few Tibetans from the Sichuan province."
Post #92"Oh, by all means, do tell what makes you such an authority on Chinese history?"
Post #93"1. The lamest thing I've seen yet on this thread is you trying to pass, "Students for a free Tibet", off as an unbiased source of authority. Obviously you can't find any academic sources to back up your quacky assertions."
Again, you have yet to provide one.
Post #94"...I think everybody with access to the internet knows about Wikipedia. It's not exactly a secret. As for our arguement the other day, I noticed that you ran out of wind."
Apparently the "pissing contest" method of debate is something you are very familiar with. In fact rely solely on.
Oh, by all means, do tell what makes you such an authority on Chinese history?
Is that your idea of a scholarly rebuttal of an opposing point?
No, I just wanted to know where you were coming from. Obviously, nowhere. Your so called facts and knowledge rely on your alleged interaction with a limited number of Tibetans outside of their native land and books you've read with a biased view in a single language.
How is it to live vicariously through the lives and stories of others?
Feel free to browse my site for the photos I took while visiting the Himalayan Mountains in the Tibetan Region. Maybe the images will make you feel like you were there too!
See how fun these childish pissing contests are?Post #66 "Well aren't you the pot calling the kettle black. The irony here is that you don't see it. I'm still waiting for those unbiased / academic links."
Interesting challenge since you haven't provided one.
I wasn't the one who started demanding such links. I'm still waiting for something other than "Students for a Free Tibet" from you.
You are a master of projection. Anyone can go on a trip and take a picture. Some people can do more than that. Not you though. ; )
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