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Academics Downgrade Socialized Medicine
Campus Report ^ | March 25, 2008 | Malcolm Kline

Posted on 03/25/2008 8:26:33 AM PDT by bs9021

Academics Downgrade Socialized Medicine

by: Malcolm A. Kline, March 25, 2008

Throughout the Twentieth Century into the new millennium, academia has been the incubator for a flood of ideas on how to nationalize health care. Now, it seems, academics themselves are admitting that it doesn’t work, even as various presidential candidates still float ideas to provide “universal health care.”

The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) at Harvard recently compiled a survey of 20 developed countries. As relayed by John Goodman of the free-market National Center for Policy Analysis, the NBER concludes that:

1. There is no general relationship between the way in which countries pay for health care and their ability to control costs. Public v. private financing, general revenue v. payroll taxes, third-party v. out-of-pocket spending - nothing seems to matter very much.

2. Government provision of health care is only modestly progressive. In Canada, people in the bottom two income quintiles - with 40% of the population - get about 50% of the health care benefits. Moreover, relative to health care needs, Canada's health care spending may not be progressive at all. For OECD countries generally, among people with similar health conditions, “higher income people use the system more intensively and use more costly services than do lower income people.”

3. Marginal increases in health care spending may actually be regressive. This is especially true if extra spending buys specialist services and elective procedures. “In Canada, high income people make disproportionate use of elective surgical procedures, such as hip and knee replacements.”

4. Government provision of health care has little impact on the distribution of well-being in society. When economists assign a monetary value to health care and add it to money income, national health insurance has very little impact on overall economic inequality....

(Excerpt) Read more at campusreportonline.net ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: developedcountries; harvard; healthcare; research

1 posted on 03/25/2008 8:26:35 AM PDT by bs9021
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To: bs9021

Not to worry. The Democrats will say simply that all of these controlled with universal health care haven’t executed the plan correctly as yet; nor have they spent enough money on it.

Socialism does not work. But at least some of the tweed coats at Harvard are beginning to get it.


2 posted on 03/25/2008 8:30:01 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: RexBeach

“controlled” s/b “countries”


3 posted on 03/25/2008 8:30:40 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: RexBeach
"Socialism does not work. But at least some of the tweed coats at Harvard are beginning to get it."

That's because those elite jackasses realize they are getting old and they don't want to have to go down to Mexico for their hip replacements in some dingy little shack of a hospital.

4 posted on 03/25/2008 8:41:34 AM PDT by avacado (Thomas Sowell: "Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.")
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To: bs9021

Democrats are in a hurry to get socialized medicine and global warming initiatives past, because it won’t be long before both are proven scams.


5 posted on 03/25/2008 8:42:27 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: bs9021

What will Canadians do for health care if the US socializes its health care?


6 posted on 03/25/2008 8:43:47 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: bs9021

Think supply side. There is nothing you can do with health insurance to fix the problem because health insurance is purely demand side. All you’re doing is redistributing the health care.


7 posted on 03/25/2008 8:47:44 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

 

As relayed by John Goodman of the free-market National Center for Policy Analysis...

8 posted on 03/25/2008 8:52:53 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: bs9021
high income people make disproportionate use of elective surgical procedures, such as hip and knee replacements.

Elective? Well, I guess they are elective if it doesn't matter whether people can walk or not. I suppose if walking doesn't matter, then a wheelchair would be elective as well.

9 posted on 03/25/2008 8:55:15 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: avacado
That's because those elite jackasses realize they are getting old and they don't want to have to go down to Mexico for their hip replacements in some dingy little shack of a hospital.

If completely socialized medicine ever comes here, you can bet there'll be plenty of high-end facilities in Mexico and the Caribbean to cater to those who can afford to pay for the coverage that the rest of us are denied by the bureaucracy
10 posted on 03/25/2008 8:55:23 AM PDT by chrisser (Obama: panem et circenses)
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To: bs9021

Socialize medicine only “works” if you LIKE the DMV.


11 posted on 03/25/2008 8:56:02 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: bs9021

referanceping


12 posted on 03/25/2008 8:59:55 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: chrisser
"If completely socialized medicine ever comes here, you can bet there'll be plenty of high-end facilities in Mexico and the Caribbean to cater to those who can afford to pay for the coverage that the rest of us are denied by the bureaucracy"

Very true!

Ted Kennedy certainly isn't going to get on a indefinite waiting list for his new liver.

13 posted on 03/25/2008 9:00:40 AM PDT by avacado (Thomas Sowell: "Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.")
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To: bs9021

bookmark for later


14 posted on 03/25/2008 9:13:59 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: Always Right
"What will Canadians do..."

They'll go to India, Ecuador, Thailand, Mexico, New Zealand, Costa Rica, etc. like everyone else.

15 posted on 03/25/2008 9:35:26 AM PDT by hometoroost (...the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. Galileo)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; Lynne; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.
16 posted on 03/25/2008 1:17:38 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: bs9021

UHC is not about health care, it is about government control of you, by restricting access to treatment. Smoke? Eat meat? Vote conservative? - Sorry, no treatment for you...


17 posted on 03/26/2008 6:35:26 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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