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If Europe Adopts Shari'a, It Will Revert to Pre-Enlightenment Era
MEMRI ^ | March 24 2008

Posted on 03/24/2008 11:55:10 AM PDT by knighthawk

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1 posted on 03/24/2008 11:55:12 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 03/24/2008 11:56:02 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

Sharia is just another name for islamic power grab. muslim imams and ayatollahs and whatevers salivate at the prospect of telling everybody in the world what they can and cannot do, and punishing those who transgress against the fatwah-of-the-day.


3 posted on 03/24/2008 12:02:29 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: knighthawk

Those would indeed be Dark Ages. Well, at least the environmental wackos would be happy with the population of the world down to one million.


4 posted on 03/24/2008 12:03:20 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Sharia is a back door “convert or die” and is how the Muslims can lie about Islam not being a conversion by the sword.

They simply require all non-muslims to live in abject subjugation and put severe restrictions on any other religions.

Now... would other religions grow or decline under this scenario, do you think?

If you’re a leftist, you can’t understand the concept of “incentive”, so the question would baffle you.


5 posted on 03/24/2008 12:06:06 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: massgopguy

Not if the wackos are the first weeded out. As is the case in everything they don’t like restrictions on themselves just everyone else.


6 posted on 03/24/2008 12:06:34 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: knighthawk
“I believe that monotheistic religious fundamentalists, whether Christian, Muslim, or Jewish, can, despite the deep-seated historical hostility among them, ally with each other and join efforts to wage war on Enlightenment thought… The[ir ideologies all] contain the same germ – the claim to absolute truth that applies to all times and all places.”(1)

Yeah, well at least Christians and Jews give you the choice to accept their faith. They leave it to God to decide eternal death.

Islamists - The Ultimate Schmucks!

7 posted on 03/24/2008 12:08:00 PM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: knighthawk

Paging King Leonidas...


8 posted on 03/24/2008 12:11:07 PM PDT by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Of course. We need a Pops Benedict-type in the European Union. Think we’ll get one? I’m not holding my breath. Sharia doesn’t even agree with itself throughout the Muslim world. Britain’s PM ought to ditch this guy IMMEDIATELY and PUBLICLY.


9 posted on 03/24/2008 12:12:03 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: knighthawk

More like pre-Roman.


10 posted on 03/24/2008 12:14:56 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: zot; Interesting Times; SeraphimApprentice

must read article


11 posted on 03/24/2008 12:16:59 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: knighthawk
Just to show that there is little that is new on this Earth, here is a paragraph written by (possibly) one of my ancestors in 1922, Wallace Marshall:

"I would warn our people to be on watch to preserve our inheritance. In all innocence of trouble, we are letting professional agitators insidiously undermine our stability. Class hatred and class privilege taught by unbalanced faddists, parlor bolshevists and such, will do the work to destroy the grand civilization of our time unless the principles our fathers established are maintained. Europe is fast starting downward to the dark ages. America, totally and distinctly different in government, in thought, in education, and ambition, while now lulled in happy satisfaction, must awake to her peril or she, too, will take the downward course. Let every descendant of the Marshalls and the Mayflower heroes hold fast that which has proved to be good and true, and firmly oppose any innovations in our government or entangling alliances, or dipping into the cesspool of European politics, is my solemn injunction."

12 posted on 03/24/2008 12:21:10 PM PDT by Sender (Feltzqlna dads if mental our Prophet, Peace Be Upon Him)
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The concept of citizenship in Europe will change.

This is the least of the problems with Islam.

They will kill us if we don’t convert to the religion of death.

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non-believers...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Sura (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared,"Kill any Jew who falls under your power."

Ibn Ishaq: 327 - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

13 posted on 03/24/2008 12:24:23 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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There will be [different] classes of citizenship and of citizens, with some citizens being exempt from having the general law applied to them because they belong to a particular religion or belief. There will be a Muslim [class of] citizen, a Christian [class of] citizen, a Buddhist [class of] citizen, a Confucian [class of] citizen, and so on. Each will apply his own laws

Interestingly, this was exactly the situation in the Ottoman Empire. Of course, the various classes of citizens were by no means equal before the law.

14 posted on 03/24/2008 12:24:53 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Mach9
We need a Pops Benedict-type in the European Union.

Who is this Pops Benedict of whom you speak?

 

(heh)

15 posted on 03/24/2008 12:27:14 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: knighthawk

A long article just to prove the obvious. Islam is the kind of Oriental despotism that Europe has been fighting since the Persians decided to invade Greece.


16 posted on 03/24/2008 12:30:43 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: Sherman Logan; All

Muslim Ottoman Turk time in Balkan Europe was HELL ON EARTH!

There is nothing - absolutely nothing redeeming aobut his twisted evil heresy that holds anything positive for humanity except maybe uniting Christians to defend their faith... and convert or more likely re-convert the oppressed muslims to the Lord.


18 posted on 03/24/2008 12:33:03 PM PDT by eleni121 (HELL OIN EARTH)
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"I do not think that this demand that some laws from Islamic shari'a be adopted into European law is [meant] to include shari'a criminal law...

...at least not right away.

19 posted on 03/24/2008 12:33:31 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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However much they can encroach before resorting to violence, they will do first.

Then they’ll take out the rest of them violently.

Their religion cannot accept any land or any people not subject to Islamic law.


20 posted on 03/24/2008 12:34:44 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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