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Donor gave, and UNCC winced
The Charlotte Observer ^ | March 23,2008 | Pam Kelley, Christina Rexrode

Posted on 03/24/2008 7:33:01 AM PDT by murdoog

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1 posted on 03/24/2008 7:33:02 AM PDT by murdoog
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They gotta be kidding. They can’t find ANY course in their curriculum where they could list Atlas Shrugged as “required reading” without forfeiting their academic integrity?

They are hopeless.

Atlas Shrugged is one of the greatest novels of the 20th Century. Everyone ought to read it.


2 posted on 03/24/2008 7:38:09 AM PDT by Brilliant
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It’s not a great novel from the point of view of literature - it’s didactic, cliche-ridden, and has cardboard-cut out characters. But it is extremely important from a philosophical and historical point of view, and there is absolutely no reason that it shouldn’t be read in this or any other class. In fact, it should be required reading.


3 posted on 03/24/2008 7:41:47 AM PDT by livius
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To: murdoog
Ayn Rand bump.

The universities are free to choose. Accept the endowment under the stipulated conditions, or fore-go the funding.

Simple choice.

4 posted on 03/24/2008 7:42:31 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
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To: Brilliant
If they aren't going to expose students to conservative thoughts and principles on their own, paying them to do it might help.

But I can't imagine professors will willingly go along and teach these ideas as just as valid as the rest of the crap they teach.

What is wrong with teaching the Bible as literature, anyway? With all the literary references to it, students are really missing out if they don't have at least a passing familiarity with Bible stories.

5 posted on 03/24/2008 7:43:30 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: roaddog727

Bingo. They took the money...


6 posted on 03/24/2008 7:43:38 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Brilliant

If the requirement was to read something that was liberally correct, no one would have batted an eye. Of course goes without saying.


7 posted on 03/24/2008 7:45:32 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I would not be surprised to learn that many colleges actually have a Karl Marx reading room.


8 posted on 03/24/2008 7:48:19 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: murdoog
"It's going to make us look like a rinky-dink university," UNCC religious studies professor Richard Cohen said Thursday after UNCC Chancellor Phil Dubois told the faculty council about the gift. "It's like teaching the Bible as a requirement."

Wow.

Of course Chancellor Dubois probably thinks teaching Rigoberta Menchu as a requirement makes perfect good sense.

IIRC, UNCC required freshmen to read Menchu's totally fraudulent memoir -- even after it had been exposed as a fraud.

9 posted on 03/24/2008 7:48:23 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: Dianna

If I’m the donor, my response to all this is fine, I’ll give my donation to someone else. In fact, I might be tempted to do that just because they seem to be having such a difficult time of this. I would not want to require that the book be required reading, only to have some liberal professor trash it. Give the money to some college that will enthusiastically teach the material. There have got to be many that would. I can think of several right now.


10 posted on 03/24/2008 7:51:13 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Dianna
two-bits says the professors have never read it!!
11 posted on 03/24/2008 7:55:01 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: murdoog

Professors afraid of exposing students to different philosophies and political perspectives? Who would have thought.


12 posted on 03/24/2008 7:55:45 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Thank you for coining the term to replace “politically correct” with: “Liberally correct.”

Defined as:

The offered idea, statement, notion, act, or whatever is certified to conform with presently accepted liberal dogma (please check for hourly updates!) on sex, race, religion, politics, history, or any other of a myriad of topics liberals/lefties/tree huggers/vegans/GBLT/and the others currently have their panties in a twist over.


13 posted on 03/24/2008 7:57:41 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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Cohen, the religious studies professor, responded that Rand was an ideologue, not a serious economist. "It would be exactly like having a Karl Marx room," he said.

Hmmm, methinks this religion student is exhibiting, shall we say, a tendency?

I'd like to hear him vituperate on the subject of schools of politics and economics that have named whole wings, whole colleges after Karl Marx and his followers.

14 posted on 03/24/2008 8:04:44 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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This is an ideological position on the part of the faculty, not a reasoned one.

I had an anthro prof my freshman year in college who required that we read Chariots of the Gods . . . so that he could debunk it in class!!

We had a good time and learned about using reason and knowledge to attack popular fads. We could use some of that right about now with global warming . . . .

But the point remains that you can require your students read something without endorsing or supporting it. In fact, if your goal is to trash Ayn Rand, you then have a heck of a soapbox on which to do it . . . .

15 posted on 03/24/2008 8:21:12 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: murdoog
The schools' agreements have drawn criticism from some faculty, who say it compromises academic integrity. In higher education, the power to decide course content is supposed to rest with professors, not donors.

These faculty aren't really concerned about academic integrity or the "power to decide" what to teach. It's the content they object to. If a donation was made stipulating that Das Kapital or The Jungle had to be taught, there wouldn't be any such complaints.

16 posted on 03/24/2008 8:22:53 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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I loved the line about having a Karl Marx reading room.

Hello!!!!!!????!?!?! You didn’t know that these universities are ALREADY teaching Marx??

For people who are obsessed with obtaining money, these university people sure do have a dim impression of capitalism. And its obvious that their institutions fail in proportion to their hostility to capitalism. They spend more and more money and yet still need even larger sums just ‘to get by’ each year. And yet their product does not improve. Hmmm..

Businesses should be allowed to fail. So should universities.


17 posted on 03/24/2008 8:33:52 AM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 3, 2008)
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To: Captain Rhino

The term “liberal” is surely an Orwellian one - the term seems to have its etymological roots in the word “liberty” but the two concepts are antithetical. And no one ever notices this.

Like the term Red State - if there was any logic in the world this would refer to the RATS but alas it doesn’t.

Orwell lives!


18 posted on 03/24/2008 8:43:57 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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"I certainly don't see an issue, unless the cost outweighs the benefit. That's what they teach you in business school,"

..."and I'm sure glad they taught me that because I never would have figured it out on my own!"

19 posted on 03/24/2008 9:35:29 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: murdoog; All

Perhaps this is a good place to ask the following semi-related question:

I remember in the late 60’s or early 70’s there was a commercial, or PSA that warned us against Communism. I am not insane, I saw it many times. Do any of you remember it?

It showed a school-aged child in a chair, wrapped in chains and blindfolded! The voice said things like “Capitalism is bad.” and other brain-washing phrases... Then the announcer came on and warned of teaching children the wrong things. I cannot find anyone who remembers it! I’d love to find it.

The situation in this thread reminds me of it, only the Communists are winning!


20 posted on 03/24/2008 11:25:55 AM PDT by HeadOn (The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.)
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