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Three South Texas highways to be interstates
The Monitor ^ | March 22, 2008 | Jackie Leatherman

Posted on 03/23/2008 4:49:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: gost2
So ... you are saying you don't like Texas' State highway system then? And, furthermore you don't think it is run well?

Hmmmm.

21 posted on 03/23/2008 11:57:15 PM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: TheZMan; xjcsa

You forgot the secrecy and denial that surrounded all the planning a couple of years ago. ;-)


22 posted on 03/24/2008 1:10:35 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: gost2
Where on 281 are you referring to? It's congested west of the airport due to construction, and south into the city when it changes into San Pedro, but heading north towards Loop 1604 it is wide enough. People do 75-80 MPH on that section of the road.

I see our main problem being poorly designed interchanges on the main arteries. A perfect example is the one between I-10 and Loop 1604.

Why would anyone want to use 281 as an alternate to I-35? 281 is approximateely 20 miles further west. It doesn't make sense unless you live between Blanco and New Braunfels.

People just need to slow down.

23 posted on 03/24/2008 1:21:18 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Dog Gone
I'll take *reduced demand* for $1000, Alex.

Once you get past San Antonio, 77 and 281 are what I like to call the *South Texas Autobahns. All they really need to do is build by-passes around the few communities you encounter. North of SA is a different matter.

24 posted on 03/24/2008 4:47:37 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: xjcsa
The entire TTC project would *confiscate* 500,000 acres of land in Texas with 4000 miles of new road, isolating communities, farms and ranches with the proposed *limited access* toll roads.

Most folks in Texas are opposed to this plan.

25 posted on 03/24/2008 4:54:02 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Which roads are FREE? Are you talking about built for free?


26 posted on 03/24/2008 4:57:33 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: TheZMan

*referendum*

As in vote? No Way! They know they’d lose bigtime.


27 posted on 03/24/2008 4:59:56 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek

I’m talking about not paying a toll to drive on that section of U.S. 77 that will become I-69 or I-x69


28 posted on 03/24/2008 5:31:21 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Go buy Cloverfield when it comes out. No frickin' politics!)
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To: TheZMan
Note that our toll roads are not owned by the state. We pay to build them, then we pay to drive on them.

That's incorrect.

The TTC is entirely paid for by the private consortium at no taxpayer expense, or if there is any, it's very indirect and minimal.

It is owned by the state, however the consortium is given a 50 year window to operate the tollway and collect the revenue to recoup the investment.

At the end of 50 years, the consortium is out of the picture. Government being what it is, the TTC probably remains a tollway after 50 years, run by TXDOT. It never left state hands, and you never paid a dime unless you voluntarily chose to drive on it.

29 posted on 03/24/2008 10:27:19 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: gost2

I think you’re grossly over exaggerating the issue. Texas is a fabulous State, and does manage their road systems equal to, or better than, any State I frequent.

Witness, if you will, the network of highways with higher than 55 mph speed limits compared to any other State.

Per capita, Texas is far below the average in highway deaths. In fact FARS reports Texas shows a 2-7% decrease in highway deaths since 02. Texas is well above the average for alcohol related traffic arrests, the number two cause of highway fatalities at 41% of all traffic deaths.

For being such a large and diverse State, with an exploding population, Texas does do a very good job.

Nothing personal, but you need to take a deep breath and calm down a tad. LOL


30 posted on 03/24/2008 11:44:12 AM PDT by papasmurf (WWOD? (What Would Obama Do?))
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To: gost2
Ummm, we just passed an amendment for $5 billion in 2007. (use the term *we8 loosely. I voted against) The real deal is TXDOT is either lying or is severely mismanaged or both. They want to build toll roads through PPPs for the upfront monies so they can mismanage that too.
31 posted on 03/24/2008 12:08:23 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I'm not sure this whole thing isn't going to be tolled.

Check out this article from 2006 and see if you see any discrepancies.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16819345&BRD=1157&PAG=461&dept_id=172073&rfi=6

And this one.

http://www.i69texas.org/

32 posted on 03/24/2008 12:39:34 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: TheZMan; South Texas Lady

Thank you, both.


33 posted on 03/24/2008 7:15:53 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: papasmurf

In replying to your post I’ll address other’s remarks. Thanks for the statistics but they don’t really make me any safer on these roads I have to travel all the time.

281 IS a major alternative route from San Antonio to all points North. I never take 35 to Dallas Ft. Worth. Neither do many other folks. Traffic on 281 has increased dramatically over the 13 years I’ve lived next to it.

It should be 4 lanes all the way up and down and there should be no stop lights on it. Its absolutely crazy that I-35 is the only real interstate for the entire area. At the very least the freeway should be extended out from SA to Hwy 46. Second to that its crawling through every little town in central Texas is ridiculous.

290 between Dripping Springs and Austin is even worse.

These are the areas I travel regularly and am familiar with. I’m sure there are dozens of other examples all over the state.

Nobody seems to want to address my comment regarding highway bonds. I would love to buy some good Texas bonds. Hard to come by.

Yes its a great state, except for the way its run. The highways are inadequate to the needs.


34 posted on 03/25/2008 4:00:46 AM PDT by gost2
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To: Dog Gone

This isn’t the same thing as mere cross border roads. This is about deliberately bypassing our own West Coast ports in order to bring in goods made by ChiCom slave labor through cheap Mexican ports and then into the heartland of the USA.

It is just more rotten shilling for the Mexicans that we get from George W. Bush and the Republocrats.


35 posted on 03/25/2008 7:59:50 AM PDT by Siobhan (Restore the Republic. Save the Constitution.)
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To: South Texas Lady

Don’t forget the eminant domain land grab to get all that land in the 1st place.

they don’t care if that land has been in the family for over 100 years or 10 years. Take it for the road.

How about the house that goes with that land in the family for 100 years, it is a registered historical landmark...... just tear it down we need that road.

It scares me that the gov. doesn’t care if we ALL SAY NO!!!!! they are going to build it.


36 posted on 03/25/2008 8:53:34 AM PDT by The Bat Lady (I want to vote for somone who won't later call me a bigot, racist or vigilante.)
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