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Three South Texas highways to be interstates
The Monitor ^ | March 22, 2008 | Jackie Leatherman

Posted on 03/23/2008 4:49:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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COMMUNITY CALENDAR: Plano (excerpt)

LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF PLANO/COLLIN COUNTY will host a public forum focused on the trans-Texas Corridor at 7 p.m. Tuesday at the Spring Creek Campus of Collin College, 2800 Spring Creek Parkway. Call 972-964-8951.

1 posted on 03/23/2008 4:49:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: TxDOT; 1066AD; 185JHP; Abcdefg; Adrastus; Alamo-Girl; antivenom; AprilfromTexas; B4Ranch; B-Chan; ..

Trans-Texas Corridor PING!


2 posted on 03/23/2008 4:50:49 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"We're doing something very similar on 281 and trying to get the plans ready for expansion," Jorge said.

This sentence alone contains all but one aspect of my reply on this thread. The missing aspect is "voter's wishes be damned".
3 posted on 03/23/2008 4:54:26 PM PDT by TheZMan (What is happening to Texas.)
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To: TheZMan

Build the damn roads.

Either that or kill off the population.

You either have to increase the supply of roads or reduce the demand for them.


4 posted on 03/23/2008 5:04:20 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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We're doing something very similar on 281

What's shi'te in Spanish? Let's just make it easier for the coyotes.

5 posted on 03/23/2008 5:06:59 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: Dog Gone

This plan is all about transporting cheap Chinese goods from Mexican ports into the USA.

As a plan it is utterly evil and serves the people of Texas not one jot.

It does serve the global corporations and the greed of small-minded short-sighted men.


6 posted on 03/23/2008 5:07:52 PM PDT by Siobhan (Restore the Republic. Save the Constitution.)
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To: TheZMan

Has there been a referendum on this?


7 posted on 03/23/2008 5:08:49 PM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: Dog Gone

Was thinking maybe Walmart should pay for the roads?


8 posted on 03/23/2008 5:16:22 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: Siobhan

We’ve always had roads the crossed the border. Would you be opposed to a new road to an artifiicial Calfornia port that brought in new imports from Asia?


9 posted on 03/23/2008 5:36:20 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: xjcsa

Not that I know of. They held “town hall” style meetings and listened to people’s concerns, then spent the latter half of the meeting basically telling them they didn’t know what they were talking about and, in essence, that they’re going to build the road regardless of what we think.

I don’t know what it takes to get a referendum. It’s something I need to read up on.


10 posted on 03/23/2008 6:02:58 PM PDT by TheZMan (What is happening to Texas.)
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To: Dog Gone

makes sense, they are already, for all intents and purposes, a defacto interstate.. the physical infrastructure is there, four lanes-plus wide, high speed traffic, through that corridor largely avoids any slow traffic areas except that it has off ramps and such similar entrances...


11 posted on 03/23/2008 6:17:54 PM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic--Shall be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure Society!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Sterco; expatguy; Paige; Tennessee_Bob; cspackler; ECM; STOCKHRSE; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


12 posted on 03/23/2008 6:23:18 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: TheZMan

I don’t live in Texas so I’m not familiar with the project; why do you oppose it?


13 posted on 03/23/2008 6:42:09 PM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: Dog Gone

And it’s going to be a FREE road financed by tolls from other segments. This is a plus, not a minus.


14 posted on 03/23/2008 6:59:23 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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To: xjcsa

Several reasons. Forgive the list-style response.

1. Just a couple months ago one of our lawmakers based in Dallas announced that the state has a $1 billion highway budge shortfall. He also proposed a tax hike to pay for it.

2. Based on the referendums that were on the ballot (allowing police to check immigration status and regarding some new ID, and one regarding government office budgets) roughly 95% of Texans are tired of illegal immigration and want to put a stop to fraud and waste in the state. I fall into this 95% group.

3. I may be off-base but I wager that the $1b. shortfall was at least partially due to the state’s recent emphasis on building toll roads. Note that our toll roads are not owned by the state. We pay to build them, then we pay to drive on them.

4. The town hall meetings which I mentioned previously wherein it doesn’t really matter what the people think or how much they oppose it; the NAU and SPP must proceed according to plan, funded by Texans.

5. If we have a $1b. shortfall and feel the need to sell off our toll roads to other interests then how the hell are we going to build a quarter mile wide highway clear across the state? And furthermore, why the hell would we if we have a big enough problem with illegals and coyotes as is?

That roughly sums it up.


15 posted on 03/23/2008 7:11:59 PM PDT by TheZMan (What is happening to Texas.)
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To: TheZMan

Would you let me know what you find out?


16 posted on 03/23/2008 7:13:57 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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The town hall meetings are a farce. They show a fancy movie of the moving of traffic on 6 lanes or more and a 2 lane rail road.

Then you draw a number if you wish to speak. They listen and write it all down.

They will NOT answer questions directed toward them.

The roads will be owned jointly in Texas by Zackary Construction and a foreign company owned by Mexico and Spain. The tolls will be very high and all land ajoining the roads will be owned by the consortium. Little access and egress will be provided.

Hope that helps a little in the way of an explaination.


17 posted on 03/23/2008 8:20:54 PM PDT by South Texas Lady
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To: SuzyQue

Regarding the referendum, we call them ballot initiatives here. After a couple minutes of looking around I found this:

“Texas is one of only 3 western states where the state legislature denies citizens the right of initiative.”

So we’re basically screwed unless we can convince out progressively liberal legislature to place an initiative on the ballot, and I think it may be too late for that already. Guess I’ll make some phone calls to my local reps tomorrow and hope.


18 posted on 03/23/2008 9:36:09 PM PDT by TheZMan (What is happening to Texas.)
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To: South Texas Lady

See 18 please. I learned something. Could use some mobilization if you know some ping lists.


19 posted on 03/23/2008 9:37:40 PM PDT by TheZMan (What is happening to Texas.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The lack of good highways between cities and rural areas in Texas is truly despicable. People die, lots of people, on a regular basis due to congestion, poor signage, inadequate capacity, no over/under passes etc etc etc.

One has to pass through 8 (probably 9 by now as I haven’t been down in a week or so) stop lights traveling down 281 to get into San Antonio. As well as wide spots in the road with a filling station or two every ten miles or so where they drop the speed limit to 55 and there are many side roads.

Its obscenely dangerous. More and more people are using 281 as a N/S corridor so as to avoid I-35 ... which is simply a death road.

Texas highways are horrendous. Being the second largest state population wise and the first in population growth ... you’d think they could float a highway bond to get things done. But nooooooooo. No highway bonds in this state. Can’t do that. Better that the highways should ever be 10 years behind the curve and that innocent men women and children die miserable deaths in bloody car crashes.


20 posted on 03/23/2008 10:05:12 PM PDT by gost2
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