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To: cizinec

Its good to see that you are so upset and defensive about the matter.

A refresher on the factual items provided thus far:

1. Contrary to the claims of the author, murders of muslims began prior to the US intervention. Srbrenica is an inconveniet truth for the anti Kosovo crowd. Under the supervision of UN peacekeepers, Serbians murdered roughly 7,000 Muslim men. Consequent to these and other acts of violence by the Serbian government, the United States began a military intervention.

2. The Serbian government has presently announced its support for China’s crackdown against Tibet.

This amplifies the amoral sentiments of the Serbian govenrment.

I actually like Russians but dislike the Russian government. And yes President Bush is awesome and neither you nor the author are as good as he is.

Feel welcome to respond to the substance of my claims or insulting me directly. I don’t really much care though the later is more amusing.


34 posted on 03/23/2008 6:54:00 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: lonestar67

News bulletin: “Srbrenica” is not in Kosovo.

Many of the 7,000 “victims” of that alleged massacre later voted in Bosnian elections.

The “massacre” was actually a running military engagement as the Bosnian Serbs closed in on the Jihadists who had been murdering Serb civilians for months (while using the “safe zone” of Srebenica as a base for their terrorist operations).


36 posted on 03/23/2008 7:00:08 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: lonestar67
1."Contrary to the claims of the author, murders of muslims began prior to the US intervention. Srbrenica is an inconveniet truth for the anti Kosovo crowd. Under the supervision of UN peacekeepers, Serbians murdered roughly 7,000 Muslim men."

Actually, it is you who is bucking the system here, because the international court absolved Serbia of responsibility for the Srebrenica incident you are citing. That's fact. But, hey, "Greenberg, iceberg, what's the difference?"

2. "The Serbian government has presently announced its support for China’s crackdown against Tibet."

Serbia is a small country caught in the middle of games by the Great Powers. Her first choice was to turn West, but the West has repeatedly smacked her down and humiliated her, because the Administration continually plays "let's kick Russia in the Serbia". That stupid policy was bound to have repercussions. It forced Serbia to turn elsewhere for support. China supports Serbia's territorial integrity in the UN Security Council, could Serbia do any less for China even if she wanted to?

47 posted on 03/23/2008 10:02:00 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: lonestar67

and here we go again about Silvertown.

How convinient that you can always take Srebrenica out of magician hat anytime you don`t have arguments on a completely different subject.

So how amusing for you would be Carla Del Ponte` book, “The Hunt”, to be published in Italy on April 3. The former Hague Tribunal Chief Prosecutor states that, during investigations into war crimes committed by the Kosovo Liberation Army, KLA, against Serbs and other non-Albanians, the prosecutor’s office was informed that persons who disappeared during the Kosovo conflict were used in organ smuggling operations.

“Over the years, we have learned that a number of kidnapped Kosovo Serb girls and women have been used as sex slaves, kept under the lock and key in the dark, moldy cellars of Albanian bar and brothel owners, underfed, repeatedly raped and beaten, until they are deemed no longer useful and killed like dogs.
“There were also reports in the Serbian media about Kosovo Serb boys and men being forced to work in unsecured, illegal private mines, but with uncooperative UNMIK and indifferent KFOR (NATO) no investigation was ever initiated, and Serbian families of the Kosovo-Metohia missing are still without answers.

A Bloodcurdling Revelation in Del Ponte’s Book
“Now, however, the much discussed Carla del Ponte’s book ‘The Hunt’ offers a harrowing detail, revealing why have Serbian men been kidnapped throughout Kosovo province during past years instead of being killed on the spot, as is the usual KLA treatment for all non-Albanians, especially those of Serbian ethnicity: because they were used as a livestock for organ harvesting in the illegal trade with human organ transplants.”

http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2008/03/harrowing-truth.html

“Big fact that makes a difference between Serbs and Albanians:

Most Serbs have accepted the fact that a part of their nation commited attrocities against a lot of the ex YU nations. I for one, think that all the Serbs that have been pointed as suspects should go on trial and try and defend themselfs...WE sent Milosevic to THE Hague, even he did a lot of bad things to Serbs as well...

On the other hand we have ALBANIANS who think and are sure that not one single Albanian has ever commited any crime against anyone...They don’t even want to admit that the KLA killed Albanians that refused to join the KLA and those Albanians were considered as traitors...You still worship Taci, Ceku, Haradinaj and Jasari (just to mention a few) even they are the worst of the criminals. And you still think Haradinaj is a saint even he is the only one who ended up in The Hague...

Regarding Madamme Del Ponte, it is now obvious, that once that she is not the Chief Prosecutor of the ICTY she can tell the truth. I can hardly wait to read her book, because I’m sure I’ll find out of all the deals with the Serbian government on the Mladic case (and he should be at The Hague as well)...

And why this case of human organs trafficking was dropped? Probably because no one from UNMIK (and from the article of the other day we know why) wanted to help or were given orders not to help.

The Albanians should think of one thing: while most of them do not even have a job and live in really poor conditions, how does Taci live? And were does his money come from? Aren’t you pissed that some of them live like kings but the mayority don’t even have electricity 24 hours a day? This is what they should be worried about...

The more you defend them, the more we all know is that Del Ponte is right...”

“Serbian people have accepted its role in Srebrenica and President Tadic has appolagised for it...

It does not mean a lot to the family of the victims, and it will stay written in history of Serbia as its darkest moment and stain...

but at least we do not live in DENIAL...”


48 posted on 03/23/2008 10:30:32 AM PDT by BabaYaga (BRE!)
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To: lonestar67

“1. Contrary to the claims of the author, murders of muslims began prior to the US intervention. Srbrenica is an inconveniet truth for the anti Kosovo crowd. Under the supervision of UN peacekeepers, Serbians murdered roughly 7,000 Muslim men. Consequent to these and other acts of violence by the Serbian government, the United States began a military intervention.”

Srbrenica was in fraking BOSNIA, not Kosovo.


50 posted on 03/23/2008 11:04:29 AM PDT by Jacob Kell (Member of the LCMS since birth.)
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To: lonestar67

2. The Serbian government has presently announced its support for China’s crackdown against Tibet.

What exactly did they say?


52 posted on 03/23/2008 11:07:23 AM PDT by Jacob Kell (Member of the LCMS since birth.)
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To: lonestar67

>And yes President Bush is awesome and neither you nor the author are as good as he is.

In some areas, he’s done a very good job. In others, not. For example, he definetly could have done better when it came to border security, illegal immigration, and protecting our economy from outsourcing. On the other hand, he’s done well when it came to fighting Al-Qaeda, and eliminating Saddam’s regime, which was a threat to the stablilty of the Middle East.


53 posted on 03/23/2008 11:10:12 AM PDT by Jacob Kell (Member of the LCMS since birth.)
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To: lonestar67

Srbrenica is completely innaplicable to this discussion. First, it occurred in Bosnia not Kosovo. Second, it was committed by Bosnian Serb forces not by the Serbian Army. Third, it was a much more complex situation then has been reported by the media and was more a retaliatory massacre than an unprovoked massacre.


60 posted on 03/23/2008 4:42:29 PM PDT by dschapin
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