Posted on 03/22/2008 10:10:53 AM PDT by jveritas
Bernard Lewis is still a great man and scholar ...But if you want to see some real & valid deconstruction of him check out some recent postings by Hugh at JihadWatch
I excuse him because he is 90+ years old and in his mind has Muslim sources he must placate. In Turkey mostly and this over emphasis on Turkish Islam makes him too charitable to Muslims turning to democracy. This cannot happen because Allah is a harsh dictator and Muhammad imitates Allah. Plus Muslims are commanded to emulate the life of Mohammed
"As above, so below"
We should ping KayEye to this thread. He had a ton of good background research on Huma going on several months ago.
You can get into trouble for mentioning carpet merchants. Look at all the people who were calling for Rummy's head.
not guilty!!!
“In fact she is not that good looking.”
Nor is her “partner” Hitlery. But definitely not so good looking when you have been to the Middle/Near East and seen or dated REALLY gorgeous women from there who compete with the best anywhere in the world.
Reliance on post-Ataturk Turkey for any support of supposed Islamic practices is misleading and wrong. Democracy exists in Turkey only because the Turkish military and the secular bureaucracy squelch Islamic dominance. Before Ataturk, Turkey was like any other current Islamic nation - barbaric, inhuman, and theocratic.
I like to tell people who discuss Islam with me that Osama Bin Laden is not an aberrant muslim. In fact, he lives his life as the Koran and the Hadith dictate a muslim should live it. The concepts of dhimmi, kafir, umma, jizya, dar-ul-harb, and taquiyya describe Islam in its entirety.
As for the myth of the “moderate muslim” that is so common in liberal and academic circles, see this great read on Daniel Pipes’ website -
13 Types of Muslims: http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/49471
“Holy crap, what a post and website this guy has.”
I remember it all right here on freepers! That is why I wonder why anyone would vote for Hillary. A vote for Obama gets rid of this treacherous scum!
So was blaming talk radio for OKC which the Clintons did. If the beast wants claim experience because of her husband, then the scasndals are hers, too..
Holy smoke, jveritas, another phenomenal find!
'Bernard Lewis, the West's leading scholar of Islam' -- Jonah Goldberg, NRO and author of Liberal Fascism.
Tell that to those young rock musicians in Pakistan. THEY think of themselves as Muslims. You tell them they’re not and guess where the HELL that will lead?
They don’t call them dhimmicrats for nothing...
Oh for crying out loud, neither party denied because this has not been in any mainstream or out of mainstream paper. Only in the postings at FR have I seen it and only in the gossipy way that people post who have nothing else to say other than rumors and innuendo. WHy should anyone deny anything.
Don’t worry. I’m sure they’re not exclusive.
Oh so you believe BIll Clinton at this juncture,,odd isn’t it that you believe a disgusting statement he made but nothing else.
I don’t get this perverse interest in Hillary Clintons sex life,,there is something very unseemly and unmanly about it if you ask me.
Frankly, I would love to see more “Islamic moderates” but the very concept is an oxymoron. I’ll repeat - the only moderate muslim is, ironically, an ex-muslim. Islam demands total adherence; dissidents, atheists, and agnostics who are found in all other religions don’t exist in Islam because of the muslim intolerence to deviations from Koranic prescription.
Not to prove my point but I’ve lived for 25 years as a memebr of the minority in a muslim-majority area. My “moderate” muslim friends and colleagues (some of whom drank alcohol and listened to rock) still believe that 9-11 was either a fraud or the work of the Jews.
Sorry - nothing I’ve experienced/seen re: Islam convinces me that there is any room for moderation in Koranically-governed Islamic societies (that constitute the vast majority of the OIC).
Ping
LOL! I must admit, your pic is better than the one I saw, though imho, no raving beauty. :0)
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