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Man Who Shot Teen In Driveway May Be Freed (Sentenced 2-4 years)
WNBC.com -- New York ^ | UPDATED: 1:10 pm EDT March 20, 2008

Posted on 03/20/2008 3:05:56 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid

RIVERHEAD, N.Y. -- A black man who grabbed a gun instead of calling police when his son awakened him with a claim that carloads of abusive white teenagers were headed to their home was sentenced to prison Wednesday for killing one of the boys.

The sentence -- two to four years -- John White received incensed the family and supporters of Daniel Cicciaro, the 17-year-old who was killed in August 2006.

White, a 54-year-old construction laborer from Miller Place, could have received up to 15 years. He was convicted in December after an emotional three-week trial in which defense attorneys -- referring to the teenagers as a "lynch mob" -- invoked the nation's violent racist past in arguing the shooting was justified.

"Nice message it sends to society that as long as you're black and there's a problem at the end of your driveway you can grab an illegal handgun and shoot someone in the face and get away with it," an infuriated Daniel Cicciaro Sr. told reporters while dozens of young women -- friends and relatives of the man's son -- sobbed loudly nearby.

"Well let's see what happens when Aaron White gets shot and see how the laws are," Cicciaro said, referring to White's teenage son.

Defense attorney Frederick Brewington said Cicciaro's remark appeared to be a threat and demanded an investigation. Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota said the matter was referred to police and the Whites were assigned extra protection at their home. Meantime Thursday, White's attorney said one of the family's supporters - who had frequently attended the trial - had their mailbox blown up last night. It is unclear if that incident was related to the case.

White was led away in handcuffs Wednesday, but his attorneys immediately filed an appeal and bail was set at $200,000 said attorney Paul Gianelli. He did not know how soon the White family would be able to post bail but said it would not be on Wednesday. White had previously been free on $100,000 bail.

"I've always remained remorseful about this incident," White told the court.

At least 18 officers kept order in the packed courtroom, which was divided down the middle between the defendant's supporters, mostly black, and the predominantly white Cicciaro family and supporters. Hundreds more loitered in the courthouse hallway, awaiting word of the sentence.

To watch our 11 p.m. report, click on the video to your right.

White testified that he was trying to protect his family on a hot August night in 2006 when the white teenagers turned up at his house. He claimed the pistol fired accidentally when Cicciaro lunged for it.

Cicciaro, who had a blood-alcohol reading above the legal limit for driving, was just 3 inches from the pistol when he was shot, a medical examiner testified.

White said Aaron, 19, had awakened him around 11 p.m. to say teens he had feuded with at a party were headed to their house in Miller Place, a predominantly white community on eastern Long Island. The younger White had complied with a request to leave the beer bash after he was suspected of posting threats against a teenage girl at the party; the threats turned out to be bogus.

But when Cicciaro and others heard about what happened, they headed for Miller Place, making cell phone calls to Aaron White.

White testified that he grew up in Brooklyn hearing stories about how the Ku Klux Klan torched his grandfather's business in Alabama in the 1920s; he said he feared a similar attack was about to happen.

Suffolk County Court Judge Barbara Kahn said her sentence was "not intended as a measure of the value of the life of Daniel Cicciaro."

"While Mr. White may be the only individual who bears criminal responsibility ... there are moral accessories in the death of Daniel Cicciaro," the judge said, referring to the young men who accompanied Cicciaro.

"They did not hold the gun, they did not pull the trigger but they share responsibility," the judge said. "Vengeance is not a proper basis for a penal sanction."

White testified that he'd hidden the pistol in his garage, fearing he would someday be chased home by unknown attackers and wouldn't have time to get shotguns he kept upstairs.

Prosecutors insisted that White had about 20 minutes to consider his actions before the youths arrived. They said White and his son, who picked up a shotgun, went down the driveway -- about 65 feet from their front door -- to confront them.

The verdict followed a 12-hour deliberation marathon that ended after 9 o'clock on a Saturday night, just two days before Christmas Eve. Two jurors later said they had been leaning toward acquittal, but changed their votes after Kahn indicated they could be brought back on Sunday.

Twice over three days, the deadlocked jurors were encouraged by the judge to continue.

Assistant District Attorney James Chalifoux, in closing arguments, quoted White's remarks to police on the night of the shooting: "I did what I had to do. You might as well put the cuffs on now. This is the end of me."

White actually would spend more time in prison for owning an illegal weapon than for the killing. He got two years for possession, and one and one-third to four years for manslaughter, to be served simultaneously.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
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See the Cicciaro family response at the original link (Warning: Strong language)

I'm good with the sentence. Appropriate for manslaughter.

1 posted on 03/20/2008 3:05:57 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Tired of Taxes; 300magnum; The KG9 Kid; MrEdd; RolandBurnam; frogjerk; 2banana; spunkets; ...
LATEST UPDATE IN THE JOHN WHITE CASE (03-20-08)
2 posted on 03/20/2008 3:08:45 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

White actually would spend more time in prison for owning an illegal weapon than for the killing. He got two years for possession, and one and one-third to four years for manslaughter, to be served simultaneously.


Ar you sure you are ok..................


3 posted on 03/20/2008 3:09:55 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

This nut needs to be in prison for 20 years minimum. He admitted that he had “fantasies” of being chased home by attackers so he hid his pistol in the garage. This guy instigated the situation by leaving his house and marching down his driveway armed and ready for action.


4 posted on 03/20/2008 3:14:07 PM PDT by LetsRok
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To: The KG9 Kid

I’m with the homeowner on this one.


5 posted on 03/20/2008 3:21:15 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Me too.


6 posted on 03/20/2008 3:23:20 PM PDT by BullDog108 (A Smith & Wesson beats four aces)
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To: PeterPrinciple
I suppose that John White could be out in as little as a year, assuming he survives prison.

That's about as good as he could have hoped for in New York after the conviction.

He might not even have been charged where I live.

7 posted on 03/20/2008 3:24:22 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: LetsRok
there are moral accessories in the death of Daniel Cicciaro," the judge said, referring to the young men who accompanied Cicciaro....They did not hold the gun, they did not pull the trigger but they share responsibility...

Funny that. When a NY policeman shoots a black man behind the wheel of a car speeding toward the policeman...well, I don't recall anyone talking about "moral accessories" in that case. The policeman took all the blame.

Bad enough to excuse vile racist, anti-American rantings from a hate filled preacher just because of his bad memories of Jim Crow. Now we're going to excuse murder for the same reason?

8 posted on 03/20/2008 3:25:11 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: LetsRok

Bull crap, a load of young thugs, came to his house! Drunk on drugs whatever. Now I wouldn’t have gone to the end of the drive, but he had EVERY RIGHT TO FEAR FOR HIS LIFE.
As far as who instigated the situation, I would claim that those that DROVE to the site where the instigators. Not the man standing on his own property! I am a keep and bear arms kind of guy, I believe in the right of a man to stand on his own property and not be threatened.

I also believe if he were white and the thugs were black with their hats turned sideways and their pants pulled down, he would be hailed a hero....

I’m stunned he got real jail time for this...

We are raising a bunch of punks, when I was 17 I would never have said an ugly word to a 50 year old grown man.


9 posted on 03/20/2008 3:27:40 PM PDT by Robbin
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To: The KG9 Kid

What if there’s an ordinance regulating the days on which a homeowner can take out the trash?


10 posted on 03/20/2008 3:28:26 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: The KG9 Kid

Thanks for the ping and the link. Now we see how Dano was raised. I have ZERO sympathy for these parents.


11 posted on 03/20/2008 3:29:25 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Timeout; LetsRok

This article isn’t giving the whole story. White armed himself and confronted them outside his house when they came for his son. He told them to leave. The other teens there testified that Dano told him to “go ahead and shoot” and then either pushed or hit the gun. THAT is why Dano was shot.

If the colors had been reversed with black teens confronting a white father, I’m sure that father would be hailed as a hero here, as someone above stated.


12 posted on 03/20/2008 3:36:42 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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I'm good with the sentence. Appropriate for manslaughter.

True, you cannot go out and shoot them in the driveway.

13 posted on 03/20/2008 3:38:46 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: LetsRok
White testified that he'd hidden the pistol in his garage, fearing he would someday be chased home by unknown attackers and wouldn't have time to get shotguns he kept upstairs.

Fantasies, or fear? Does my wife carrying a concealed pistol for fear of assault mean that she has "rape fantasies"...?

14 posted on 03/20/2008 3:41:34 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: org.whodat

In New York, you mean. The locale is significant for these kinds of things, remember.


15 posted on 03/20/2008 3:44:07 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid
Bad decisions all the way around.

But that family of the victim looked and acted like some major scumbags. What was with the mohawks?

16 posted on 03/20/2008 3:48:47 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: BullDog108

Me too. His son told him a lynch mob was coming to kill him, a huge mob drives up, screeching tires, screaming for his son’s head...if this had happened in a Free state, not NYC, he’d have not been charged. He was just defending his son, himself and his family.

Ed


17 posted on 03/20/2008 3:50:38 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Tired of Taxes
I've found that it wasn't just two cars and the teens present at the driveway which were at the scene as reported in the original stories archived here. Several more cars appeared carrying teens from the party at the White's house. They weren't necessarily there to confront White with Cicciaro and the rest, but were just excited about something happening and gleefully wanted to see what resulted. It was actually as if the entire teenage party cleared out and caravanned to the White's neigborhood to see Cicciaro and his crew attack Aaron White. There were actually enough cars and drunken teens in White's cul-de-sac for several neighbors to notice something significant was happening outside and summon the police. The neighbors, by the way, didn't call the police until after Cicciaro was shot.

White did point the gun in Cicciaro's face. Cicciaro actually lunged for the gun twice according to witnesses; Once when White initially pointed the gun in Cicciaro's face. Cicciaro lunged for the gun a second time after it was pointed in his face, and was shot.

18 posted on 03/20/2008 3:53:52 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: LetsRok
This guy instigated the situation by leaving his house and marching down his driveway armed and ready for action.

The intruder was three inches away and advancing, I don't see where it matters exactly where on his property he was.

19 posted on 03/20/2008 3:55:19 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
There's a previous thread in the archive with members of the family in shaved scalps with tattoos on the back of their heads.

The Cicciaros were a whole family of these counter-culture tough guy types. The only picture we've regularly seen in the media of Daniel 'Dano' Cicciaro was his dapper high school prom and yearbook picture, but I've since learned that his appearance was more like his family posing as a gang of Long Island toughs.

20 posted on 03/20/2008 3:57:39 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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