Someone posted that the Irish didn’t like the Brits.
You replied that it was because of nationalism and backward politics.
The first statement was political. Yours was far more general.
Where the hell could the Irish look, except for inward?
To the French or Spanish that would have immediately caused mass slaughter by the incoming British?
Britain is (or at least was) the center of modern law in the modern age. And as many times as we watch Braveheart, Edward the First had alot to do with it.
When you investigate a bit about what actually happened when Britain moved into Scotland, you will learn that the stream of infantry and calvary went North, something like six abreast, for over thirty hours.
That’s what they did to Scotland.
So do you blame Ireland?
“Someone posted that the Irish didn’t like the Brits.
You replied that it was because of nationalism and backward politics.
The first statement was political. Yours was far more general.”
I think its more the other way round.
“Where the hell could the Irish look, except for inward?
To the French or Spanish that would have immediately caused mass slaughter by the incoming British?”
I wasnt talking about then. I’m talking about NOW. This is a perfect illustration of the truth I spoke. I give my opinion of Irish nationalism and the immediate comebacks boil down to “you can’t say that, or its racist of you to say that, because of what happened a century and a half ago. Or longer”. Irish nationalism IS backward looking. It only cares about the past.
As for inward-looking...theres nothing wrong with that in small doses. The problem arises when folk are ONLY inward-looking.
“When you investigate a bit about what actually happened when Britain moved into Scotland, you will learn that the stream of infantry and calvary went North, something like six abreast, for over thirty hours.”
1) England moved, not Britain moved.
2) So the king of England sent a big army north. So what? That was a dynastic struggle irrelevent to Ireland’s problems. Or would you prefer he sent a small one so the Scots could beat them?
“That’s what they did to Scotland.”
No that’s what Edward I did four hundred odd years earlier to various dynastic rivals in the land now called Scotland. His army incidentally, included lots of Scots.
“So do you blame Ireland?”
I don’t blame them for feeling aggrieved then, or for wanting to leave Ireland then. Or for even hating Britain then. I can blame them for holding onto grudges for century upon century and letting them influence their decision making processes now.