Posted on 03/19/2008 9:19:29 PM PDT by Califreak
Next Wednesday, March 25, the Assembly Public Safety Committee will consider legislation that would require gun owners to obtain a “permit-to-purchase” before buying handgun ammunition.
Introduced by State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), Assembly Bill 2062 puts ammunition sales in the crosshairs. AB2062 would require that law-abiding gun owners obtain a permit to buy handgun ammunition and would impose severe restrictions on the private transfers of handgun ammunition. Applicants for a “permit-to-purchase” would be required to submit to a background check, pay a $35 fee, and wait as long as 30 days to receive the permit.
(Excerpt) Read more at nraila.org:80 ...
They ARE the problem. Just not the problem that most of us think of. The "problem" that the government wants to "solve" with gun bans, ammo restrictions, etc. the the ability of the citizens to effectively resist tyranny. In this care the biggest problem IS the threat that law abiding citizens will sooner or later will get pushed beyond their breaking point and start taking second amendment action agaist tyrants, tyrant wannabes and their jackbooted minions. Kali's Henry Earwax wants to ban .50 cals because they could reach out and touch someone riding in a limo. Wonder whose skin he's worried about.
The gun banners are not in the least worried about criminals, because criminals pose no threat to the government. Criminals only threaten individuals, and the neo national socialists who propose these laws couldn't care less about the fate of individuals. You want to protect your family against home invasion by ms-13? Tough, if you can protect against one gang then you might be able to protect against the gang that wears blue. AND WE CAN'T HAVE THAT CAN WE?
Cabelas beat you too it om I-80 where they have a brand new store just inside the Nevada State line.
> Criminals only threaten individuals, and the neo national socialists who propose these laws couldn’t care less about the fate of individuals.<
How true! Please indulge my alarmism for the moment.
Would it be unheard of for “neo national socialists” to use these thugs to enforce martial law if it hits the fan?
I wouldn’t put it past them for a NY minute!
I particularly agree with your last two sentences. I hope these idiots procede, and that the SCOTUS backs Heller. I will personally contribute to one or more lawsuits against these jerks, and ask that they be prosecuted for deprivation of civil rights under color of authority.
Not that this is any surprise. I left Kalifornia over 30 years ago...
By Debbie O’Hara
April 27, 2004
NewsWithViews.com
We are led to believe that gun control laws are for the benefit of the common people, but what are the real results of gun control? There are those like government educators and the main stream media who would have us believe that ordinary citizens would be safer if they were not allowed to own guns. They would have us believe that a government monopoly on force would make our nation’s people more safe and secure. But is gun control really the necessary tool we need to create a less violent society? Would gun control allow us to better live our lives without fear of being victimized by violent criminals? Are everyday citizens really made safer when the ability to defend themselves and their families from human predators is against the law?
A look at history will show us that gun control does not benefit ordinary citizens. In fact it makes them far more likely to fall victim to violent crime. After a thorough investigation of the history of gun control, any logical-thinking person can only come to one conclusion - gun control advocates are either ignorant or they are evil.
The only people empowered by gun control laws are governments and criminals. And unfortunately sometimes one is the other. What happens when a rogue government takes control of a nation? History’s worst serial killers have been governments that turned predator against segments of their own populations. The inability of innocent victims to defend themselves against their own governments cost the lives of over 170 million of the world’s peoples in the 20th century alone.
In February 1915 a secret plan was made to eliminate Turkey’s Armenian population. It was not difficult for the nation’s new government to set these plans in motion because there were already gun control laws on the books requiring people to register their guns. With this ready information it was a simple task for the authorities to make house to house searches confiscating the weapons of the country’s Armenian Christian minority. Homes were ransacked and people were tortured in order to take their arms. On June 26, 1915 the final part of the plan was put into motion. The government announced that all Armenians would be sent to remote camps. Armed guards rounded them up; most were women, children, the elderly and the handicapped. They were led over rough terrain and into the deserts where many dropped dead from heat and exhaustion. Fewer than 1 in 10 survived the march, only to be butchered in the end by their captors. The total count of the annihilated was 1,500,000 or three-fourths of the Armenian population of Turkey.
In the early 1930’s while the rest of the world was being brainwashed into believing that the Soviet Union was a worker’s paradise, in reality millions were being starved to death by their own government. Wanting to confiscate the grain from Ukraine to pay for industrial expansion, Stalin required that the farmers give up their land and move onto collective farms. Because of ten years of gun control laws, the farmers had no way to defend themselves when they were required to give up their land to the government. Millions of the most prosperous farmers were either sent to forced labor camps or were shot outright. With granaries full, some estimates show Stalin starved as many as 10 million people.
By 1935 the Nationalist government of China forbade the Chinese people to own firearms. This certainly didn’t make the Chinese people safer when from 1942-44 four million people died from starvation when the government confiscated their crops. Another four million were tortured and murdered when they didn’t want to join the military or were “uncooperative” soldiers. In 1937 hundreds of thousands of the women and children of Nanking were left defenseless against Japanese invaders because of gun control laws forbidding them to defend themselves. They were raped, buried alive, burned alive and forced to watch as their own organs were cut out of them. The worst was yet to come in 1949 when the Communist takeover brought about the murder of another 35 million Chinese. Some historians put the death toll by the Communists as high as 100 million. We can believe Chairman Mao when he told us that guns are the ultimate source of all political power.
Article posted in its entirety is from this link:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Ohara/debbie22.htm
I wouldn't put it past them either, but I think that they'll stick with their beloved ski masked minions unless the ski masks get too many holes.
No, brass and copper/lead purchase. :P
The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1341941/posts
Count me in as an investor.
>Another kind of story about the Russian mafias is the direction of violence by the state agencies themselves. According to Handelman, “assumptions are widespread that the crime groups are not only protected, but also in some cases instructed by Government officials and the police” (1993, 32<
THE RED MAFIA: A LEGACY OF COMMUNISM
http://www.auburn.edu/~mitrege/FLRU2520/RedMafia.html
Yep. And the rifles I mentioned chamber and fire ammo in what are commonly considered pistol calibers.
So which way will this boondoggle go? Banning .45-70 as "handgun ammo" because someone somewhere has a T/C bbl for it? --or will they loosen up on 9mm, .357, and .44 mag, because there are rifles which fire those calibers?
Of course, we know the answer to that, but the question needs to be raised loudly and often in the press out there.
Add some semi-precious metals to your investment portfolio! (8^D)
Oh goody! A new CA public employee category. I can't wait to apply. $100k per annum after 20 years plus overtime. Retire with 20 years sick leave and vacation time ($300k cash at retirement) at 95% base. Sign me up.
Well, when you think about it, it's perfectly reasonable that these new hires should be covered by the Cal Prison Guards contract....
Yes, that is true. So many things that were legal are not anymore. So many more felonies today. Plus they are also hoping you don’t know your rights and sign some of them away. They will lie to you to get you to sign away/waive your rights. And once you do that, they are gone forever.
Just remember, if you’re unlawfully convicted and think you may lose your guns, you may not have to.
1. There is no federal law that says felons can’t own guns. Title 18, section 921, paragraphs 3 and 4 are there to ensure felons can own guns.
2. Check your state laws. Your state may have a law that felons cannot own guns. But many states do not have a such a law. If you live in such a state, and have a felony or domestic abuse misdemeanor, you can still own firearms.
3. Never sign any piece of paper saying you will never own a gun again as part of any ‘agreement’ with law enforcement. If you do sign such a document, you have legally waived your 2nd amendment right to have a gun (which is what they are trying to get you to do, and law enforcement can lie to you to get you to waive your rights), and if you are ever caught with a gun (or possibly even ammunition) that piece of paper you signed gives them the ability to arrest you for having a gun.
Signing away your 2nd amendment right is not required, you cannot be forced to give up your 2nd Amendment right. Cite the federal law 18:921 para 3 and 4, and that your state doesn’t have a law that felons cannot own guns (if you live is such a state), and they will drop the matter because you know the law.
It’s one thing for them to attempt this on an actual violent criminal. I don’t think many people would be crying if the violent gangbanger signs away his/her rights to own a gun. It is a very different matter if you are a regular law-abiding citizen who is getting the shaft from a bogus charge, or gets wrongly prosecuted for defending yourself, or has a felony that has nothing to do with an armed violent conflict, much less a bogus domestic abuse charge.
Know your rights. Many politicians don’t realize that the new laws they pass that turn people into felons are also going to be attempted to be used to disarm citizens. Some actually do know this and are doing it on purpose, whether they tout this as a benefit of a new law or not.
Well, some animals are more equal than others!
Do you live in California?
You are suggesting doing to those of us who do what the damn Socialists in our government want to do - take away our ability to buy ammo.
I hope it pleases you to be an unwitting tool of the gun grabbers.
Michael Frazier
Thanks for posting this info!
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