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'Do-over is dead' (Michigan Primary re-vote)
Politico.com ^ | March 19 2008 | Ben Smith

Posted on 03/19/2008 2:17:31 PM PDT by jveritas

The headline from MIRS, Michigan's Hotline:

Ding-Dong, Do-Over Primary Is Dead

"Time of death for the do-over Michigan primary? Call it at about 11 a.m. today."

A Lansing insider IMs to explain the latest development:

The Senate Dems just had a long caucus meeting following their long phone call with the Gang of Four [as Carl Levin and others pushing a re-vote are called], and the result is that no one moved. Votes aren't there. Thus, it will not go to a vote in the Senate. And barring some other last minute miracle that doesn't involve those four, the governor and Hillary traveling to Michigan, it is dead as a doornail.

UPDATE: State Sen. Tupac Hunter, an Obama supporter, confirms the outcome of today's meeting.

"The caucus has expressed again today that there is concern about the proposal and a great deal of unreadiness," he said, saying that sentiment is still "overwhelming."

"We informed the four great Democrats who have worked very hard to come up with a solution," he said. "It’s one of those things where you can agree to disagree. The question then becomes, What do we do now?"


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: doover; elections; hillary; mccain; mi2008; nobama; obama
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To: cdchik123
Hussein will be a bridesmaid long before the convention. The dems are scrambling to dump him now and fast. He is so tainted having been exposed for a complete fake, they have no choice but to go to their back up.

Hussein thought he could convince a vast number of ill informed voters he was something he was not. Look at how many people knew nothing about him but were mesmerized to the point of following him anywhere.

The dnc knows they have a loser in hussein if they leave if to the convention to decide the nominee apart from the national riots. This thing has to be determined before then. Hillary will win big in PA, get some kind of boost from MI and FL. Super delegates will then begin to line up with hillary and that will sink hussein....

41 posted on 03/19/2008 3:58:08 PM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: jveritas
We informed the four great Democrats

I didn't know there were any "great rats" let alone four of them....

42 posted on 03/19/2008 3:58:44 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: The Forgotten Man

LOL at you giving dems that much credit? I don’t think so.

She may very well win Pa big, but it wont be enough, and NC will go to Obama no matter what polls say. Polls also had Hillary up only 3 right before SC.

She went to fight for a revote in MI and FL because she knows she needs those delegates or at least the popular vote, and it looks like it wont be happening.

obama’s race speech was for liberal activist superdelegates. dont select me and youre racist, we help end racism!!111


43 posted on 03/19/2008 4:10:15 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: cdchik123

Obama up 3 in SC**


44 posted on 03/19/2008 4:10:57 PM PDT by cdchik123
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To: Aglooka

“The next primary is April 22 so that leaves plenty of time for this Pastor Wright thing to go away.”

The Libs seem to have lvoed his speech.

I say we let that issue lie for a while, let Obama get the nomination, then bring it up again.

Killing Obama’s nomination now would only lead to a more formidable candidate in the fall.


45 posted on 03/19/2008 5:55:23 PM PDT by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

“If Mac is beating HRC and BHO by 6-8 points now (latest Zogby), what’s this going to look like after a contentious convention and folks really take a long hard look at whom they’re going to trust with the POTUS vote?”

If that’s where we are at right now, lets not get in the way while the Dems commit Hari Kari ... LET’S FOCUS ON THE HOUSE AND SENATE, THAT’S WHERE WE NEED THE HELP TO WIN!


46 posted on 03/19/2008 5:57:33 PM PDT by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: The Forgotten Man

If you are correct about that, the new ‘chaos strategy should be for the Republicans to vote Obama.

Then the superdelegates would have to completely override the primaries to put Hillary in there.


47 posted on 03/19/2008 5:58:59 PM PDT by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: P.O.E.
If neither wins on the first vote, can’t delegates just vote for anyone they choose? Just in the days before primaries.

Technically, the pledged delegates can vote for whomever they want on the first ballot. By disqualifying Michigan and Florida, the DNC overreacted. Only the diehard Democrats will vote the Democratic nominee in those States. The rest of those States' voters will punish the D's for not letting them have a say in the DNC's nomination process.

48 posted on 03/19/2008 6:00:01 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Biblebelter
Hillary Clinton will win the nomination, the Presidency, and kick the butts of the Americans in particular the conservatives. I know that many conservatives suffer from battered wife syndrome and want their butts kicked again by the Clintons. Kick me more, Kick me harder the conservatives asked the Clintons and the Clintons gave them what they wanted. Send your thanks to El Zibo.
49 posted on 03/19/2008 6:14:36 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Limbaugh (El Zibo) for President (extreme sarcasm))
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To: cdchik123

He was up 8 points in South Carolina a week ago.


50 posted on 03/19/2008 6:15:48 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Limbaugh (El Zibo) for President (extreme sarcasm))
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To: WOSG

Agree 100%.


51 posted on 03/19/2008 6:16:21 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Limbaugh (El Zibo) for President (extreme sarcasm))
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To: potlatch

This guy is finished, do not waste your talent doing graphics about him (this was is very funny by the way). Please focus now on the evil one, she is the nominee.


52 posted on 03/19/2008 6:19:09 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Limbaugh (El Zibo) for President (extreme sarcasm))
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To: jveritas

I totally agree. We can beat Obama easily.


53 posted on 03/19/2008 6:20:18 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: montag813
I doubt that this will finish her. Obama is not going to recover form the Wright thing and the Republicans are now to face a much more powerful democrat in the general elections, Hillary Clinton.

Imagine 4 to 8 of the Clintons again. Insanity to the nth degree. Imagine 4 to 8 years of America surrendering to the terrorists, America paying more taxes, America going socialists, ultra left wing judges changing our way of life and America having much less freedom.

54 posted on 03/19/2008 6:23:31 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Limbaugh (El Zibo) for President (extreme sarcasm))
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To: cdchik123
obama’s race speech was for liberal activist superdelegates. dont select me and youre racist, we help end racism!!111

You have a very good point there. Another person told me the same thing, he said that Obama in his speech trapped a lot of Super Delegates to vote for him because as he said as you did, that if you do not vote for me you are a racist.

55 posted on 03/19/2008 6:26:29 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Limbaugh (El Zibo) for President (extreme sarcasm))
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To: jveritas
Hillary Clinton will win the nomination, the Presidency, and kick the butts of the Americans in particular the conservatives. I know that many conservatives suffer from battered wife syndrome and want their butts kicked again by the Clintons. Kick me more, Kick me harder the conservatives asked the Clintons and the Clintons gave them what they wanted. Send your thanks to El Zibo.

There is a myth that Bill Clinton was a popular President. That is not true if one measures popularity by a majority of popular vote in Presidential elections of Bill Clinton which never achieved. Your thesis is, as I take that Hillary is as popular a candidate as her husband and popular enough to win the Presidency. Since Bill Clinton never won a majority of the popular vote, I have no reason to believe Hillary will. The chances of winning the Presidency without a majority of the popular vote is slim, given 2008 election dynamics . To think Hillary has more popular vote drawing power than her husband is a leap of faith that Hillary does not deserve. I do not like the RINO relic and Keating Five Guy well enough to vote for him. But as I have stated on many threads, McCain can beat Hillary without my vote since I reside in a very blue socialist state. McCain will probably need Rush's vote and every vote he can get in Florida, because I doubt if a Republican can win without Florida.

56 posted on 03/19/2008 6:40:30 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If whites spew hate, Obama calls it hate speech, when his pastor says it, he calls it anger speech.)
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To: Biblebelter

Ohio and Arkansas will go Hillary Clinton this year and it is all over.


57 posted on 03/19/2008 6:52:39 PM PDT by jveritas (Rush Limbaugh (El Zibo) for President (extreme sarcasm))
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To: jveritas
Ohio and Arkansas will go Hillary Clinton this year and it is all over.

After the primary in Ohio in which Hillary won on the Democrat side, McCain's poll numbers increased in the state to the point where he led by 5 points.

58 posted on 03/19/2008 7:09:56 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If whites spew hate, Obama calls it hate speech, when his pastor says it, he calls it anger speech.)
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To: jveritas
I understand your consternation but I also believe that Obama wouldn't be in his current situation if Hillary had been defeated in Texas and Ohio.

I have no proof. But, I know McCain would have never gone at Rev. Wright or allowed it. This stuff was all covered by Hannity almost a year ago.. and it died right there. What brought it back up was the posting of anonymous UTube videos of Rev. Wright ranting.

Even though it hasn't been traced, you know this came from the Clinton campaign. They would have never done this except they truly are going to the mattresses.

They believe like you do that they can win against McCain if they can get the Super Delegates to vote for her at the Convention but that isn't possible unless Senator Obama is totally destroyed as a viable candidate.

This implosion would not have occurred without Clinton having a "shot."

On the flip side, Senator Obama has not gone to the mattresses yet and he must. The nomination is now his to lose and he has to do the same as Hillary. Deliver a knock out blow that makes it impossible for the Super Delegates to shift against the popular vote. He also has to change the subject. Hillary has been completely happy to let Rush and company carry the water on this.. but ultimately, unless Obama is willing to cut and run and accept the end of his political career, he will respond by dumping more explicitly Hillary's dirty underwear into a MSM that is happy all of the sudden to show it.

59 posted on 03/19/2008 8:14:16 PM PDT by dalight
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To: jveritas
jveritas, what does Zibo mean?
60 posted on 03/19/2008 8:15:48 PM PDT by harpo11 (Rush, had better have a back-up strategy just in case the third term grabbing Clintons win the WH.)
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