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Apparently. Anyone who thinks he said "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms" and that he was referring to the 2nd amendment must be a product of such a system.

Paulsen you're FULL of it and full of your elitist self. I don't give a rats ass if you read anything I have written, but you'd do well to read the following and educate yourself because it has become obvious that you're a shill and your words are a hateful statement against the United States itself. You speak against the Constitution consistently and inaccurately, in your meager attempts at twisting and debasing the words of the Founding Fathers.

Not ONE of these men spoke of arms in terms of "hunting" nor regulation thereof. Not even Jefferson in your own twisted thinking believed that regulation of arms, ANY weapons, to include swords, or military weapons, should be "regulated" by the government in ANY FORM.

Every, single one of these men spoke of the USE of these weapons as keeping and defending OURSELVES from an unjust, and ridiculous government - which is becoming more and more obvious you prefer over the God given rights and freedoms we already HAVE. The Constitution doesn't GIVE these rights. It ENUMERATES them as Rights NO MAN or GOVERNMENT can or will take.

Your continued insistence upon 'government controls' of these rights is the VERY reason we have them, to prevent maggots like yourself from taking them from us.

You are a disingenuous, intellectually dishonest, inarticulate, liberty-sucking, trollish ignoramus. Your belief that guns are bad is an in-bred, Socialist-Leftist-Nazi concept and you'd do well to change in your attitude or go elsewhere to peddle your mealy mouthed crap.

Read, and LEARN instead of living out the rest of your life as an ignorant sap.

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
-- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment, I Annals of Congress at 750, August 17, 1789

"Whereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them; nor does it follow from this, that all promiscuously must go into actual service on every occasion. The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle; and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it, whenever they can prevail, no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it."
--Richard Henry Lee, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms ... "
-- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."
--Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms."
-- Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356

"The right of the people to keep and bear ... arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country ..."
-- James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

" ... to disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
-- George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380

" ... but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights ..."
-- Alexander Hamilton speaking of standing armies in Federalist 29

"Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms ... The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard, against the tyranny which now appears remote in America but which historically has proven to be always possible."
-- Hubert H. Humphrey, Senator, Vice President, 22 October 1959

" ... most attractive to Americans, the possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave, it being the ultimate means by which freedom was to be preserved."
-- James Burgh, 18th century English Libertarian writer, Shalhope, The Ideological Origins of the Second Amendment, p.604

"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress ... to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.... "
--Samuel Adams

Finally about the remarks YOU made about Jefferson.. here's his OWN WORDS about what he said... which are vastly more accurate, and different than your own, ignorant interpretation thereof:

I was extending the right of suffrage (or in other words the rights of a citizen) to all who had a permanent intention of living in the country. Take what circumstance you please as evidence of this, either the having resided a certain time, or having a family, or having property, any or all of them. Whoever intends to live in a country must wish that country well, and has a natural right of assisting in the preservation of it. (http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndjef.html - Read the WHOLE article as written and cited there).

Finally... Patrick Henry said, "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.

"O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, wherewith you could defend yourselves, are gone...Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation...inflicted by those who had no power at all?" June 1778, Virginia ratifying committee against Edmund Pendleton who argued, not unlike RobertPaulsen and other Leftists, AGAINST the Bill of Rights.

"Paulsen you're FULL of it and full of your elitist self. I don't give a rats ass if you read anything I have written, but you'd do well to read the following and educate yourself because it has become obvious that you're a shill and your words are a hateful statement against the United States itself. You speak against the Constitution consistently and inaccurately, in your meager attempts at twisting and debasing the words of the Founding Fathers."

"Your continued insistence upon 'government controls' of these rights is the VERY reason we have them, to prevent maggots like yourself from taking them from us."

"You are a disingenuous, intellectually dishonest, inarticulate, liberty-sucking, trollish ignoramus. Your belief that guns are bad is an in-bred, Socialist-Leftist-Nazi concept and you'd do well to change in your attitude or go elsewhere to peddle your mealy mouthed crap."

Right on. You spoke exactly what I have been thinking for a long time with regard to all his ludicrous postings. Could not have said it any better and it is sad that it even has to be articulated and time wasted refuting the nonsense. But, thank God the SCOTUS has made it clear in their remarks that the preamble to the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with the fundamental right to keep and bear arms. It has nothing to do with a militia, what so ever, other than allowing a free people to take their arms and prevent a tyrant from abusing the constitution by force of arms if and when necessary. Some people just don't get that. Some people rely so much on government that they can't bring themselves to believe that governments can do evil and turn on their own people and free men at arms is the only true protection and grantee of freedom.