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Obama's church
World Magazine ^ | March 22, 2008

Posted on 03/18/2008 6:36:44 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776

The choir won't stand still at Trinity United Church of Christ, which Barack Obama has attended for 20 years. In dashikis and outfits of variegated patterns and colors—black stripes, radiant yellows and purples, networks of green and pink—150 singers are clapping, swaying in unison, and singing, "The Lord is blessing me, right now, oh, right now."

Congregants in the packed double-decker auditorium are themselves clapping, swaying, and singing, barely noticing the woman in a black suit who has volunteered to step-dance backwards down the aisle. "He woke me up this morning, He started me on my way . . ."

(Excerpt) Read more at worldmag.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: blackchurch; jeremiahwright; nobama; obama; trinityucc
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Trinity's black-centeredness has garnered some criticism, but when Thomas (John Thomas, the conspicuously white president of the UCC) took the microphone to congratulate Wright he said, "When I go to Green County, Wis., to our Swiss German congregations, and they come down the aisles ringing cowbells and blowing their alpine horns, no one says it's a problem."

http://www.worldmag.com/articles/13850

1 posted on 03/18/2008 6:36:45 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

I have never heard of any Luthern Church blowing Alpine Horns, or ringing cowbells....wonder if he is talking about Bell Choirs.


2 posted on 03/18/2008 6:37:58 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

The United Church of Christ last month did begin a struggle with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), which informed the UCC that the denomination’s tax exempt status is under review, and that the agency is examining a speech Obama gave before the UCC’s General Synod in June 2007.

http://www.worldmag.com/articles/13850


3 posted on 03/18/2008 6:38:52 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776
One of the problems I have with this entire episode is that this makes the 'black church' look out of the mainstream.

There are thousands of black churches that focus on serving their community with the grace and mercy of the Lord, but they don't preach an Afro-centric gospel. They preach a Christ-centered gospel.

In Dallas, where I used to live, are two of the greatest black preachers in the brotherhood - Bishop T.D. Jakes and Dr. Tony Evans.

4 posted on 03/18/2008 6:40:48 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: AmericanMade1776
I just knew something was missing...we need more cowbell!


5 posted on 03/18/2008 6:44:20 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Forget it...I'll never be able to pull the lever for McCain!)
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To: TexasNative2000

I know you are right, and I am United Methodist, and once my church had a black pastor from Nigeria, the congregation of the Church was mainly white, and the Pastor from Nigeria spoke the word of God...no political speeches were given.


6 posted on 03/18/2008 6:44:26 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Night Hides Not

Reverand John Thomas and his vision of German Church of Christ congregations


7 posted on 03/18/2008 6:47:55 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776
Full Gospel Churches are not the problem, the problem is when some full gospel churches like Obama’s church preaches hate and anti-American sentiments.
8 posted on 03/18/2008 6:48:02 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: AmericanMade1776
The only problem is, they do NO do this there:

“Trinity's black-centeredness has garnered some criticism, but when Thomas took the microphone to congratulate Wright he said, “When I go to Green County, Wis., to our Swiss German congregations, and they come down the aisles ringing cowbells and blowing their alpine horns, no one says it's a problem.” “

They are civilized people in Wisconsin. They are not trying to imitate primitive tribes in Africa.

9 posted on 03/18/2008 6:51:13 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: tobyhill

Not just the preaching of Anti-American Sentiment, but Hate period, and Politics, and swearing.


10 posted on 03/18/2008 6:52:04 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: TexasNative2000
Dr. Tony Evans

I've heard him on the radio a few times. You're right, he's good.

11 posted on 03/18/2008 6:52:27 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: AmericanMade1776

REal nice (sarcasm off)

“In talking points listed on Trinity’s website, Wright states, “The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book Black Power and Black Theology.” Cone argued in his 1970 work, A Black Theology of Liberation, that “the goal of black theology is the destruction of everything white, so that blacks can be liberated from alien gods.” Cone rejected the “God of white seminaries” as a racist construction and argued that “God’s identity is revealed in the black struggle for freedom.” Obama may need to disavow his church’s view of race just as he disavowed Farrakhan’s viewpoint.”


12 posted on 03/18/2008 6:53:47 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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I think if a Swiss German congregation was playing Alpine horns and Cowbells in church and preaching hate against their African American Brethern we would of heard of it by now.


13 posted on 03/18/2008 6:53:55 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

No, he’s just plain lying while trying to ridicule the WHITE congregation.


14 posted on 03/18/2008 6:55:07 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: TexasNative2000
Dr. Tony Evans rocks. I heard him speak at the "Stand in the Gap" rally in Washington DC.

You're right too - there are Christ-centered black Church's at focus on Jesus. Not a "social gospel" nonsense or pan-African Marxism.

It is a shame, but I am glad the wolves in sheep's clothing churches are being exposed. I also notice they are uncomfortable with the light. I guess Christ's words in Chapter 3 of John are apropos.

15 posted on 03/18/2008 6:56:14 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: AmericanMade1776
Wright he said, "When I go to Green County, Wis., to our Swiss German congregations, and they come down the aisles ringing cowbells and blowing their alpine horns, no one says it's a problem."

What? No cheeseheads??


16 posted on 03/18/2008 6:59:29 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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Trinity's black-centeredness has garnered some criticism...

Yes, much as the Klan's "white-centeredness" has garnered some criticism, and for precisely the same reason.

17 posted on 03/18/2008 7:00:31 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? See ToSetTheRecordStraight.com - TSTRS.com for short)
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I just heard on the news that the Muslim is going to speak in a few minutes..I noticed there were American flags behind where he will be talking like maybe five or six I didn't count..He sure is becoming a true American since we found out about him and his racist pastor friend..I wonder if he will have them play God Bless America so he can put his right hand over his heart for everyone to see.Or will it be G D America...for hia friendly church people..The Church of the Muslims..
18 posted on 03/18/2008 7:00:56 AM PDT by PLD
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First off, as a Mississippi State fan, I see NO problem with ringing cowbells in church (or anywhere else).

To be fair, President George W. Bush's pastor belongs to a church that sanctions the killing of unborn babies, opposed our government fighting communists in SE Asia and were complicit in the slaughter of millions in the Killing Fields, opposes our attempts to liberate millions in the Middle East from bloodthirsty tyrants and retarded mullahs, is against the Capital Punishment of rapists and murderers, condones homosexuality, wealth redistribution, etc.

www.ucmpage.org

P.S. I was a member of that church for over 40 years, but now am a member of the Congregational Methodist Church.

19 posted on 03/18/2008 7:01:18 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: AmericanMade1776; Charles Henrickson; mikrofon
I have never heard of any Luthern [sic] Church blowing Alpine Horns, or ringing cowbells....wonder if he is talking about Bell Choirs.

How come I always manage to miss the Good Stuff.

20 posted on 03/18/2008 7:10:03 AM PDT by martin_fierro (I'M NOT DEAD YET!)
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