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To: jveritas
America has already won in Iraq. It is like saying, "if America leaves its bases in Germany, it means we lose WWII." Truly deranged.

Saddam is gone, whatever active or latent WMD programs existed were dismantled, and Iraqis have been given another shot at something that at least resembles freedom and democracy. It is the campaign of the IRAQIS now - America is set to play a diminishing military role in the country because it has succeeded. It may have been costly (in the sacrifice of American blood and treasure), but any honest appraisal would indicate resounding victory on every count.

The people who preach defeat will succeed only in both emboldening the scattered insurgent groups now on the precipice of quitting their doomed efforts, and in turn delay the return of American troops. Most in the "anti-war" movement are more interested in making sure that Bush's reputation and the reputation of America are tarnished than in bringing the troops home.

69 posted on 03/17/2008 2:56:43 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: M203M4

Dead on correct !

Good post !

Stay safe !


71 posted on 03/17/2008 3:03:29 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.©)
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To: M203M4
America has already won in Iraq.

ABSOFREAKINLUTELY! It wasn't as we planned, it wasn't pretty, but we won. THAT is what we do when we put our minds to it. You think we planned on the hedgerows in Normandy? Hell no! We won anyway. Because our military is the best in the history of the planet. Not just the best military, but the best people in the military. I am grateful for them every day.

The Iraqi's can still screw it up, and they are perfectly capable of doing that. We will have to stay there to "coach" them. They have a thousand years of failed philosophy to forget. But it can be done, and if it is, it will transform the region. Think about how N. Korea would act if there were no strong, free S. Korea and Japan in the neighborhood. We still have troops in both of those countries, and I'm told by friends and family in the military, those are both considered pretty good postings.

Let's also remember how many Jihadists went to Iraq to kill Americans, and never left. It's a terrorist graveyard.

80 posted on 03/17/2008 3:25:42 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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