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Pastor Halts Obama's Rise Above Identity Politics(Hussein is toast!)
humanevents.com ^ | 03/17/2008 | Ross Kaminsky

Posted on 03/17/2008 1:36:26 PM PDT by kellynla

Two of the three big news stories last week – those of Eliot Spitzer and Geraldine Ferraro -- are already fading into the dust heap of boneheaded but mostly harmless decisions by people in the public eye. But the third story, that of Reverend Jeremiah Wright, will not go away, much to the detriment of Barack Obama, his supporters, and those who have for years paraded the fiction that identity politics (whether of gender, race, or any other grouping) is a truly uniting force for the Democratic Party.

Reverend Wright, who retired in February from his position as head of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ, is Senator Obama’s long time pastor and friend, having presided over Obama’s wedding and the baptism of his children.

The current furor surrounds video clips of sermons given by Reverend Wright in which he makes statements which would be perceived by most Americans as somewhere between hateful and insane.

A few lowlights from Wright’s sermons:

• “US of KKKA” • “No, no, no, not ‘God Bless America’! God damn America” • “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.”

And, although they haven’t been discussed as much in the media, Wright has controversial statements in print as well -- in his church’s publication called “The Trumpet.” These are perhaps no surprise in a magazine whose stated mission includes “highlighting… experiences and beliefs in a racially oppressive society”:

• In the August, 2005 issue: “In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01.” • In the May, 2006 issue: “White supremacy controls the economic system in America, the healthcare system in America and the educational system in America.” • In the November/December 2007 issue, speaking of Louis Farrakhan, one of the nations’s leading racists and anti-Semites: “He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest.”

And while it is understandable that many black Americans might be angry with the nation’s far-from-perfect history in race relations, the venom of Reverend Wright’s statements go far past civil or helpful discussion. More importantly for today, the hateful and anti-American messages go far beyond what is politically palatable during a presidential campaign.

Although the Obama campaign is claiming that guilt by association is unfair, Obama’s claims of ignorance and his half-hearted distancing from Wright strike many as neither sincere nor sufficient.

In an interview on Fox News, Obama said that Wright was like an uncle to him, and that Obama had never been in the pews when Wright made statements like “God damn America.” He first admitted to “hearing about one” after he started running for president. Later in the interview, he said he had heard “one or two.” Regarding some of the most inflammatory quotes, Obama said, “Had I been sitting in the church at the time when they were spoken, I would have been absolutely clear to Reverend Wright that I didn’t find those acceptable.”

Obama went on to say that he would have quit the church if he thought that sort of rhetoric was being in an ongoing basis, but that if it were just once or twice, he wouldn’t have quit because he would have considered it was just “a mistake.”

In his initial attempt to put distance between himself and Reverend Wright, Obama gave a long statement to the left-wing HuffingtonPost.com web site, including this key sentence: “Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy.”

Throughout the early days of this controversy, then, Obama has been subtly but clearly doing everything possible to distance himself as narrowly as possible from “the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue” rather than the man himself. However, in this situation, the message and the messenger are very difficult to distinguish, so Obama’s too-clever semi-criticisms are allowing the issue to tarnish Obama in a way that even his possibly more serious involvement with Tony Rezko and Illinois political corruption have not.

Jeremiah’s jeremiads strike at the heart of two critical aspects of Obama’s candidacy: Being a “post-racial” candidate and having better judgment than his opponents.

It is hardly plausible that the Obamas have been a member of Wright’s church for over 15 years (and his friend for longer than that) yet did not realize Wright’s black separatist and anti-American message.

Indeed, it seems an odd coincidence that just over one month after Obama announced his campaign for the presidency, the church altered its “About Us” page on its web site, eliminating the discussion of a “Black Value System,” which included such concepts as “Adherence to the Black Work Ethic,” “Disavowal of the Pursuit of ‘Middleclassness,’” and “Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System.” (Click on dates for web pages: Page dated 3/15/07 with “Black Value System” and page dated 3/29/07 without that content.)

It is not unreasonable to wonder whether either the Obama campaign or Reverend Wright himself began to suspect early on that such racially charged rhetoric could become a political problem for the candidate.

When some of Reverend Wright’s inflammatory remarks surfaced early in the campaign, Obama then tried the same sort of pseudo-distancing. But once the evidence has become so large and loud, it becomes difficult to understand why Obama does not call on Wright to make at least a pretense of an apology for the worst of his rhetoric. It becomes hard to understand why Obama continues to defend him “like an uncle” when most Americans realize that you don’t choose who is born into your family but you do choose your pastor and your church. In other words, it brings into serious question Obama’s claim to be above and beyond racial politics, a claim which is central to his support among young idealist liberals.

As for Obama’s judgment the same questions arise, and there is no good answer for him: “Did you realize that your pastor was a messenger of racial division and anti-Americanism? If so, why did you stay at that church? If not, how could you be an active church member for 15 years and somehow miss the apparently consistent message of its leader?” Obama either gets painted as having bad judgment about his choices, lying about them, or being blind and deaf to his surroundings, all of which are not only negatives for a candidate, but are particularly negative for this candidate.

Even Obama supporters and black Democratic activists on television acknowledge that Reverend Jeremiah Wright has become a “huge negative” for Barack Obama. It is not about trying to attribute Wright’s words to Obama; that is not necessary in order for their relationship and Obama’s careful parsing of his criticism of Wright to cast strong doubt on Obama’s positioning as the post-racial candidate with superior judgment.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blacktheology; jeremiahsmessiah; jeremiahwright; liberalracism; nobama; obama; politicsofoppression; wright
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To: Beowulf9
I’m sure that’s true...and didn’t the Barracks, one or both, make the statement they felt uncomfortable/out of place amongst the whites in the University?

Yes, because according to liberation theology, those institutions are controlled by the 'white' man and thus,inherently racist.

21 posted on 03/17/2008 1:59:46 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: kellynla
Hummmm...


22 posted on 03/17/2008 2:01:50 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: All; kellynla
For those who missed it. Go to this link and then click on the YouTube link and see what Reverand Manning has to say about Obama. It will blow you away.

Reverand Manning

23 posted on 03/17/2008 2:02:08 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Yes, it seem their shared theology is that a Black man/woman must not become educated and successful if in the process one loses their blackness and leaves the black community.


24 posted on 03/17/2008 2:04:34 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

“Hussien was a lock with the guilt ridden white liberals, until his pastors “kill all white people” video was released. They did a long overdue double take last week.”

I hope it’s enough, but wouldn’t bet on it. The guilt-ridden whites were also on a haj to Mecca like experience to expiate the historical sin they’ve born so self-righteously for most of their lives. Voting for a black guy was their expiation of that long held guilt. Some will not be turned away, no matter what.


25 posted on 03/17/2008 2:05:44 PM PDT by Will88
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To: TexasCajun
Yes, it seem their shared theology is that a Black man/woman must not become educated and successful if in the process one loses their blackness and leaves the black community.

Yes, education should emphasis their own 'blackness' as being victims of the 'white' establishment.

Their view is that it is important that they become educated, but that they use that education to overthrow the 'white' man's rule by gaining control of those institutions.

This is why black Republicans are never really considered black, they are not revolutionaries.

Radical Feminism has this same view, and that is the why the battle is so intense in the Democrat Party, which radical ideology is going to get a chance to take over the biggest prize, the White House.

26 posted on 03/17/2008 2:12:54 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

I still see him leading the assembly at the convention in Denver this August in a “Death to America” chant.


27 posted on 03/17/2008 2:17:02 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Guilt-ridden white liberal (a good phrase), and they will never learn. Look at NJ for reference.


28 posted on 03/17/2008 2:18:13 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: kellynla
Apparently, the defense position is going to be that pointing out racist and offensive beliefs is racist and offensive.
29 posted on 03/17/2008 2:19:12 PM PDT by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
KILL THE WHITE PEOPLE. Song my Eddie Murphy, sung in a Reggae style. SNL skit.

I live in a shanty in the shantytown.
We have no money so we had to sleep on the ground.
I played the music. My father he dig a ditch.
My mother she do laundry life sure was a bitch.

But ‘till we killed the white people. Ooh we gun make them hurt.
Kill the white people yea. But buy my record first.
Ooh yea. Why don’t you buy my record?

We sing of freedom and ooh equality.
But we really don’t care we just want money money money.
We want to drive in a big black limousine.
Get so high off ganja we cant even see.
and then we kill the white people. Ooh we gunna make them hurt.
Kill the white people. Yea. Ooh but buy my record first ooh.

When u go in the record store. We gunna wait outside.
We gunna hit them in the head with a bat and make them cry.
but ‘till we kill the white people.
Yea but buy my record first.

30 posted on 03/17/2008 2:19:54 PM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: kellynla

The Illinois senator is considering giving a speech this week on race. In other words, he may turn this around with a good speech on race.


31 posted on 03/17/2008 2:21:45 PM PDT by nikos1121 (I'm voting for McCain...and fixin' to get excited about it.)
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To: allmendream
Updated.

“Kill the white people, yaa. But vote Obama first” LOL!

32 posted on 03/17/2008 2:22:43 PM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: kellynla

It explains why the media and the left were pushing Obama. They agree with these sentiments.

It explains why they were keeping mum about it, because they know they can’t just come right out and say this stuff.


33 posted on 03/17/2008 2:22:44 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Thank God for every morning.)
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To: tobyhill

what are younger days? I’m hearing that he was using well into his 30s.


34 posted on 03/17/2008 2:22:51 PM PDT by nikos1121 (I'm voting for McCain...and fixin' to get excited about it.)
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To: kellynla
“Disavowal of the Pursuit of ‘Middleclassness,’”

And we are wondering why many Blacks are not part of middleclass.

35 posted on 03/17/2008 2:23:35 PM PDT by paudio (Conservatism: like it or not, it's a word with multiple meanings.)
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To: nikos1121
I'm not sure about into his 30s, I just know what he admitted to in his book, teenage years.
36 posted on 03/17/2008 2:29:01 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Lady Heron

“US of KKKA” • “No, no, no, not ‘God Bless America’! God damn America” • “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.”

“US of KKKA” • “No, no, no, not ‘God Bless America’! God damn America” • “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.”

OBAMA WAS SPEWING HATE LONG AGO:
From Dreams of My Father, “ I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASISVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE”. Barack Hussein Obama

From ‘Dreams of my Father’, “The emotion between the races could never be pure, even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in ourselves. Whether we sought out our demons or salvation, the other race (WHITE) would always remain just that: menacing, alien, and apart.” Barack Hussein Obama

From Dreams Of My Father: “That hate hadn’t gone away,” he wrote, BLAMING “WHITE PEOPLE — some CRUEL, some IGNORANT, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.” Barack Hussein Obama

From ‘Dreams Of My Father’, “There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs,” he wrote. “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,to show your LOYALTY TO THE BLACK MASSES, TO STRIKE OUT and name names” Barack Hussein Obama


37 posted on 03/17/2008 2:34:19 PM PDT by cyberella
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To: nikos1121
Nascar will not be racing this weekend, it is Easter. If he wanted to give a speech about the race, he should have been in Bristol, TN yesterday.

Oh, he is in Philly tomorrow for the Nascar speech about the race. I did not know they had a cup race in Philly, too far north.(sarc)....

38 posted on 03/17/2008 2:35:04 PM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: kellynla

Thanks for the thread.

Marked to read later


39 posted on 03/17/2008 2:36:20 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi
From another one, the "White Amjerica got its wake-up call on 9/11" one:

"In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just “disappeared” as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns. The hundreds of thousands who have been killed in Rwanda, in Angola, in Zimbabwe, in Mozambique and in Kenya are still invisible. There has been no international uproar about the thousands of Black lives lost, just about the loss of white life, American life and British life!"

Some of the victims of 9/11:

Bernard brown 11, Flight 77

Rodney Dickens, 11, Flight 77

Asia Cotton, 11, Flight 77

LeRoy Homer, Jr., Flight 93 First Officer

40 posted on 03/17/2008 2:42:23 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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