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US losing confidence vote as investors flee
The Telegraph ^ | 3/17/2008 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 03/16/2008 8:58:36 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

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To: iThinkBig
Now, chance of depression is 100%.

I put it more at about 200%.

121 posted on 03/17/2008 6:13:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We're all gonna die!!!!)
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To: iThinkBig
You got that right! My neighbors are in Maine, we help each other out already and we have guns and the woods. We’ll convert the old paper mills and use coal to create biodeisel and help out other uppity states.

We now know where you are, and we have tanks.

Good luck with that.

122 posted on 03/17/2008 6:15:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We're all gonna die!!!!)
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To: Lazamataz
It sucks being right all the time.

Quit whining -- learn to deal with it like the rest of us know-it-alls.


123 posted on 03/17/2008 6:25:59 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: coloradan
Unfortunately, what folks went through in the 30s was a grand repurposing of the federal government towards socialism, entitlements, nanny-statism, and an outright confiscation of Constitutional money, namely gold.

And that slouch towards socialism prolonged the depression into a ten year disaster that only a world war could shake us loose from. And guess what? Into all this congress is poised to raise our taxes! That's sure to help things!

124 posted on 03/17/2008 7:13:18 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Lazamataz
What's wrong with discussing business cycles?

Those of us who experienced them never even thought about connecting such things as "life and death" -- the idea that it meant a choice between life and death never even occurred to us. What a silly notion.

It was just a cycle. We talked about it.

We knew it was just a cycle. Times for some of us would be tough for awhile and then back to work.

Our parents handled the Depression and W.W.II the very least we could do is handle a little stagflation (for example).

125 posted on 03/17/2008 8:53:11 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: dennisw
IOW you are saying Americans are owning US debt via Cayman Island accounts.

Some hedge funds are incorporated in the Caymans.

126 posted on 03/18/2008 11:56:21 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Buy gold!!!!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Soros big fund (Quantum?) has been incorporated since forever in Cayman or Bahamas


127 posted on 03/18/2008 1:14:49 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: dennisw

Lots of the newer ones too.


128 posted on 03/18/2008 1:17:06 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Buy gold!!!!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Wow.... Your tagline says you turned into a goldbug


129 posted on 03/18/2008 1:36:09 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: dennisw

No it doesn’t. This tagline would mean I was a goldbug.


130 posted on 03/18/2008 1:40:26 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Gold is a store of value. Gold and silver are the only real money.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Now you are goldbug. If you can’t beat ‘em join ‘em


131 posted on 03/18/2008 1:48:30 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: dennisw
I'm bullish on gold, that must mean we hit the top. Sell!!!
132 posted on 03/18/2008 1:50:09 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (NAFTA opponents are an odd coalition of the no-deodorant Left and the toothless-and-tinfoil right.)
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To: Publius

Great graphic!


133 posted on 03/18/2008 10:53:36 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: dennisw; dollarbull
Gold is currently down $44 to $960. I hope you sold when you saw my tagline.
134 posted on 03/19/2008 6:47:06 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (NAFTA opponents are an odd coalition of the no-deodorant Left and the toothless-and-tinfoil right.)
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To: Shady
Hillary will, of course, blame Bush, Obammy will blame bush, and the timing couldn’t be better. The blame is on Bush but every member of Congress for the past 60 years as well. The bubble is bursting. The overspending of Government is solely to blame.

Along those lines...could someone refresh my memory re: why the Clinton surplus wasn't really a surplus?

Because I know I'm going to start hearing, "Well...when Clinton was prez he had a surplus...look at what Bush did!"

135 posted on 03/19/2008 6:57:35 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (Game over man...GAME OVER!)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
Along those lines...could someone refresh my memory re: why the Clinton surplus wasn't really a surplus?

Because it included the Social Security surplus. Without Social Security money, his budgets were all in deficit.

136 posted on 03/19/2008 7:07:26 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (NAFTA opponents are an odd coalition of the no-deodorant Left and the toothless-and-tinfoil right.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Expect pullbacks in the $ price of gold to be the 20-30% range frequently. The volatility (of the value of the fiat) will be huge just like in the 1970s.


137 posted on 03/19/2008 8:22:17 AM PDT by dollarbull
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To: dollarbull

Gloabl de-leverageing and the hedge funds unwinding commodites trades they have ridden for years.


138 posted on 03/19/2008 1:26:43 PM PDT by groanup (War is not the answer. Victory is.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Gold is currently down $44 to $960. I hope you sold when you saw my tagline.

You mean gold could become a semi precious metal?

139 posted on 03/19/2008 1:28:15 PM PDT by groanup (War is not the answer. Victory is.)
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To: groanup
You mean gold could become a semi precious metal?

Never! It's the only real money. It's the answer to all our problems.

An ounce of gold has always been enough to buy a new suit and a nice pair of shoes.

140 posted on 03/19/2008 4:05:40 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (NAFTA opponents are an odd coalition of the no-deodorant Left and the toothless-and-tinfoil right.)
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