Lithuania, Kovno, USSR, 1942: 
Execution of Russian Partisans: 
Posted on 03/16/2008 10:37:34 AM PDT by Alouette
It is one of the enduring mysteries of the second world war. More than 800 Jews based in this hospital in the middle of Nazi Berlin survived the war, seemingly — and bizarrely — protected by Adolf Eichmann, the architect of the Final Solution. So who were they and why were they saved?
Russian soldiers fighting their way through the rubble of Berlin in the last days of the war turned the corner of Iranische Strasse, in the district of Wedding, and came across an elegant building almost intact. Fanning out to search the structure, the Russians ransacked the place, room by room. Medical equipment and rows of beds showed that it had once been a hospital. Searching deep into the bowels of the building, the Russian liberators burst open cellar doors, and in the darkness made out hundreds of cowering figures – more than 800 people in all.
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“”The germans would have gladly surrendered to Patton””
“That’s speculation worthy of Monday morning quarterbacking. “
Its not speculation - its well documented that Eisenhower kowtowed to the russians , refusing to accept offers of surrender and in the case below, actually fought Monty after checking with his Kremlin bosses.
“I didn’t know “
That is an understatement.
So then what is your answer? What planes did we have to deliver nukes to Soviet Russian cities?
see post 82 and my others .
Insistence on “unconditional surrender” meant prolonging the war not by months but by years.
And the bottom line is that good men like Patton and Forrestal and McArthur and McCarthey were villified, western civilization was and is set back hundreds of years, and communists went on to kill 60 million more.
I must visit that place some day. Thank you for the link.
The first A bomb test was on July 16, 1945 south of Alamogordo, New Mexico. Germany had surrendered in April. Do you realize how fact challenged you are?
I've been through the flame wars of old, I've been threatened with my life, threatened to be sued, called every name in the book, and I'd like to know what I did was censurable. Just so I don't do it again.
May I have a response please?
5.56mm
I have said over the longest of time that some naivete politicians who play both sides of the street like John McCain can not see the danger that many minorities espouse behind closed doors, so-to-speak.
Listening to one of the political shows Friday night about the Reverend Wright was eye opening.
Two of the black panelists said that whites just did not understand how the blacks felt about how they have been treated over the years.
What confuses me is that over the last 40 years most blacks have had an advantage in job hirings, school applications and politics over Hispanics and Whites due to the many class conscious diversity laws imposed by pandering law makers.
Blacks are being stirred to high riot resentment by the race baiter's and enablers who's only agenda is to line their pockets with soothing donations of green cash.
It doesn't matter that our black condo manager who makes $125,000 a year doing practically nothing but she is still angry that her great great grandfather was denied a front seat on his train trip from New York to West Virginia.
Yes folks it is about that stupid.
Blacks have lived so long with their hands out that even those who are now wealthy can not shed the mantra of us against whitey.
Wealthy or poor blacks have a hard time of seeing the real light.
Charlatans like the Reverend Racists Wright deliver the bad words and Charlatans like Hussein Obama get drunk drinking in the negativity of the words spoken.
God help this country should either Obama or Clinton win the presidency.
I read an earlier story about Charles Manson and he predicted a race war between whites and blacks and his idiotic prediction if given a chance by Reveran Wright may come true.
My point is that we had a proven nuke well before the germans surrendered and it is complete BS that we needed the Russians.
the first plutonium bomb test was in july - the first bomb we dropped in Japan was a uranium bomb.
the uranium bomb was “pretested” - in other words, they knew it was going to work. I dont know how, but that is the best info we have.
The war in europe was over in April
“So then what is your answer? What planes did we have to deliver nukes to Soviet Russian cities?”
Duh - ever here of the Doolittle Raid - the thousand miles from Berlin to Moscow was easy for the 24, 25 and even the 17.
Dont forget that the Hiroshima bomb only had a couple hundred pounds of explosives.
“To note, in the Battle for Berlin alone - over 600,000 casualities.”
Duh - only because that the germans knew that they were dead if they surrendered to the russians.
Eisenhower refused to accept several offers to surrender by the Nazis - who tried to negotiate as early as 1943.
Just think how many would have been saved - including the majority killed in the Holocaust.
But what did Roosevelt and his buddy Eisenhower care? They had already fired on a boat load of Jewish refugees just before they reached land in Florida.
Dont forget that the Hiroshima bomb only had a couple hundred pounds of explosives.
Yes, I have heard of the Doolittle raid. That other than the B-29 was capable of delivering an atomic bomb is nothing I've heard before. Makes me wonder why we bothered to develop the B-29 and fight for a place in the Pacific to accommodate it bombing Japanese cities.
Wrong. We didn't know if an A bomb would work until the test on July 16, 1945, which was well after the Germans surrendered in April, 1945. The Japanese still held out and they got the blessings.
remember that those Russian soldiers liberated Treblinka and Auschwitz.
After all of that, they simply didn't gave a damn about Germans. All they wanted is revenge, and they considered that most holly thing to do.
You haven't heard that because it isn't true. Only the B-29 were large enough to carry the early primative A bombs like fat man, and even then, the bombay doors had to be remade to drop the much larger load.
Lithuania, Kovno, USSR, 1942: Execution of Russian Partisans:
Duh, what planet are you from? The Doolittle Raid was a one-way trip, launched from a aircraft carrier and the pilots could only hope to make it to China afterwards. Several of the planes crashed in Japan and the crews were killed by the Japanese. Several of the plane crews, though, did make it to China and the Chinese did their best to help them. The Japanese were infuriated by the whole thing, and it's estimated they murdered 250,000 Chinese trying to find the American pilots.
Dont forget that the Hiroshima bomb only had a couple hundred pounds of explosives.
Nonsense, the U235 core and the Plutonium core weighed less than 5 pounds each. It was all the surrounding mechanisms that caused the bombs to be so heavy.
Do you ever bother to research anything?
“We didn’t know if an A bomb would work until the test on July 16, 1945, “
drop the NY Times and read a book - the Hiroshama bomb was a gun type uranium bomb and it was “proven”.
the nagasaki bomb was a plutonium implosion type that was “proven” at trinity.
“how does it feels like when your family if massacred by Germans,”
how does the amish in germany feel when the communists murdered half a million germans in 1921.
http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/order/general/sinner.html
the russians you like so much are the biggest murderers in the history of the world.
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