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Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division (Obama was present at Wright's July 22, 2007 sermon)
Newsmax ^ | Aug. 9, 2007 | OBAMA'S MAMA

Posted on 03/16/2008 9:52:01 AM PDT by rao2000

Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division

Jim Davis Thursday, Aug. 9, 2007

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Presidential candidate Barack Obama preaches on the campaign trail that America needs a new consensus based on faith and bipartisanship, yet he continues to attend a controversial Chicago church whose pastor routinely refers to "white arrogance" and "the United States of White America."

In fact, Obama was in attendance at the church when these statements were made on July 22. .....

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To: stockstrader
how many churches of ANY sort have a "Ministry of Internal Security"???

the ONLY one i can think of, offhand is that bunch of suicidal KOOKS that drank the "kool-aid".

free dixie,sw

121 posted on 03/16/2008 11:29:02 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Robwin
My point is he ought first repudiate the racism of his pastor

He is verbally doing that. However, if he is shown to be a liar by observations like those discussed on this thread, and, if the pastor remains a spiritual advisor, then the obvious conclusion is that he actually agrees with the pastor. That make Osama a racist and blows apart his campaign of "bringing together". Of course, it has been tripe all long but it must be proven to those in the mainstream who don't want to hear it said about their Messiah.

122 posted on 03/16/2008 11:29:36 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: harwood

Nope.


123 posted on 03/16/2008 11:29:44 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: Philo1962

This is a portion of an article from the International Herald Tribune that gives you an idea of just what kind of influence Rev. Wright has been to Obama. What the writer means is that Obama copied Wright’s style with addition of lawyerly weasel words.


It also helped give him spiritual bona fides and a new assurance. Services at Trinity were a weekly master class in how to move an audience. When Mr. Obama arrived at Harvard Law School later that year, where he fortified himself with recordings of Mr. Wright’s sermons, he was delivering stirring speeches as a student leader in the classic oratorical style of the black church.

But he developed a tone very different from his pastor’s. In contrast with Mr. Wright — the kind of speaker who could make a grocery list sound like a jeremiad — Mr. Obama speaks with cool intellect and on-the-one-hand reasoning. He tends to emphasize the reasonableness of all people; Mr. Wright rallies his parishioners against oppressors.


124 posted on 03/16/2008 11:30:32 AM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: Philo1962
Wow.

That obviously is a personal decision on whether to offer your first hand knowledge to the Press--and it is NOT an easy decision--because you will immediately be attacked and branded as a racist.

After all,,,you must be aware of the "RULES" (as defined by the PC liberal-left media):

RULE 1 -Blacks have a 'blank check' to say whatever they want.

RULE 2 - Anyone that questions RULE 1--is (by definition) a RACIST!!!

Again, there seems to be no effort at all by the MSM to interview any of the churchgoers who DO have 'first-hand' knowledge (since the MSM just wants this to 'go away').

125 posted on 03/16/2008 11:31:11 AM PDT by stockstrader (Voting for CHANGE by voting for Obama--is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: stand watie

Hey brother. You might not recognize me, but I recognize you. It’s been a long, long time. Good to see you.


126 posted on 03/16/2008 11:32:29 AM PDT by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: stockstrader
Senator B. (whose middle name must NEVER be spoken) Obama will claim he was 'sleeping' during the outrageous, disgusting racial rants.

Maybe he was there, but he didn't inhale! Yeah, that's it!

127 posted on 03/16/2008 11:32:39 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: PennsylvaniaMom; All
to me, he looks like another RACIST NITWIT, not REALLY any different from the FOOLS/cretins/BIGOTS in the white sheets/hoods.

free dixie,sw

128 posted on 03/16/2008 11:32:53 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Philo1962
HI, guy!

YEP, i remember.

free dixie,sw

129 posted on 03/16/2008 11:33:57 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Philo1962

Good work and thanks for the ping.


130 posted on 03/16/2008 11:34:21 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: harwood
Was that the “Audacity of Hope” sermon?

Good question. I guess that Senator B. (whose name must NEVER be spoken out loud) Obama DID hear that comment....lol

131 posted on 03/16/2008 11:35:44 AM PDT by stockstrader (Voting for CHANGE by voting for Obama--is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: sweetiepiezer
Wondering if these posters are from Hillary’s team. Anyone else wonder why the Clintons are not fired up over these tapes, especially since the Rev. went on about how Bill Clinton did them like he did Monica.

That's an interesting thought. But this issue is so damaging to Obama, Clinton probably doesn't need to say a thing about it, and she would be wise not to.

132 posted on 03/16/2008 11:36:43 AM PDT by SaveTheChief (Chief Illiniwek (1926-2007))
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To: Philo1962

Keep the information flowing, Philo. And thanks for the ping. I would’ve missed this one.


133 posted on 03/16/2008 11:36:46 AM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: InterceptPoint

“Am I missing something here?”

Yes! During the Star Spangled Banner, you should remove your hat and place it or your right handover your heart. Just watch major league baseball for a hint.


134 posted on 03/16/2008 11:38:56 AM PDT by nadlo
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To: SaveTheChief
Wondering if these posters are from Hillary’s team. Anyone else wonder why the Clintons are not fired up over these tapes, especially since the Rev. went on about how Bill Clinton did them like he did Monica.

I did wonder about that too. However, IMHO, the answer is simple.

Democrats/liberals and the MSM embrace black racism--so they had no major problem with what the Pastor said. To democrats,,,it just is NOT a big deal!!!

Heck, they even have their owned 'sugar coated' policy for black racism--aka 'affirmative action'.

They also have their own 'nice word' for it too--'diversity'.

135 posted on 03/16/2008 11:39:58 AM PDT by stockstrader (Voting for CHANGE by voting for Obama--is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: Eva
I just wonder if that may be why in some of his speeches when he seems to be preaching, he inflection changes and he sounds like a gospel evangelist....
136 posted on 03/16/2008 11:43:05 AM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: JHBowden

Does it appear that he was singing along for part of it? I think maybe towards the end of it. It’s hard to tell.


137 posted on 03/16/2008 11:43:08 AM PDT by b4its2late (GITMO is way too nice of a place to house low life terrorists.)
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To: stand watie
because the main-SLIME media "has fallen for" BHO;that's WHY!

Does anyone wonder why the MSM is NOT interviewing any of the regular 'church-goers' at Trinity--to find out how often this hateful, racist garbage was spewed??

Just imagine if it was a white church spewing that garbage that McCain attended regularly for over 20 years?

(Look at what they tried to do to Trent Lott for nothing...absolutely NOTHING).

138 posted on 03/16/2008 11:43:54 AM PDT by stockstrader (Voting for CHANGE by voting for Obama--is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: The Forgotten Man
I just wonder if that may be why in some of his speeches when he seems to be preaching, he inflection changes and he sounds like a gospel evangelist....

He had over 20 years of watching and 'learning' from the best!! /s

139 posted on 03/16/2008 11:44:47 AM PDT by stockstrader (Voting for CHANGE by voting for Obama--is like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
Ah, but if Hillary gets the nom all hell will break loose with the Democratic party. Their single biggest voting bloc will be outraged and feel betrayed.

Kinda like conservatives in the GOP...

140 posted on 03/16/2008 11:46:28 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Time for Conservatives to go Free Agent)
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