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A Sea-Change Election? (Hurl 'em if ya got 'em!)
The Nation ^ | from the March 31, 2008 issue | Robert L. Borosage

Posted on 03/15/2008 8:22:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Whistling past the graveyard or accurate predictions?
1 posted on 03/15/2008 8:22:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Getting desperate on the left.
The Obama dismemberment has sent the radical left into
a Jim Jones KOOL AID reality.
2 posted on 03/15/2008 8:25:24 PM PDT by ncalburt
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Drink up, all you communists....I mean Liberals...so sorry..."Progressives!"

3 posted on 03/15/2008 8:29:38 PM PDT by paul in cape
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only thing that can lose the election for McCain is a total economic collapse between now and November.

Unfortunately, that turn of events is not beyond the realm of possibility.


4 posted on 03/15/2008 8:30:10 PM PDT by kms61
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While voters hadn't turned right, the right was on the march
Rather, the philosophical underpinnings of the left had been entirely demolished...

The reason the voters are so disenfranchised with the current batch of Republicans is because they've been voting like Democrats.

5 posted on 03/15/2008 8:33:34 PM PDT by jdege
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Locked in Leftist Optimism. Nothing relevant to see here.


6 posted on 03/15/2008 8:35:55 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
vitriol of the Democratic presidential WrestleMania....funny, funny....
prior to the 'Toons, occupation of the WH in 1993, there was a story, about how the 'Toons would laugh, at "the Boobs/Rednecks" watching the spectacle called "WrestleMania"

7 posted on 03/15/2008 8:35:58 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you...our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IMO, this election proves nothing. It is just in a holding pattern for 2012, no matter which side wins. Movement conservativism isn’t dead, it just lacks leadership.


8 posted on 03/15/2008 8:37:51 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: kms61
There's a lot McCain can and may do to guarantee the Democrat wins in November. Let's see if he even makes it to the convention as a candidate. A lot can come out between now and then. And he can do a lot of things. Let's see what happens on his European fund raiser/photo opp.
9 posted on 03/15/2008 8:45:15 PM PDT by isrul (Help make koranimals an endangered species)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well I think it is a mix, the thrust of the article is that the Nutroots have to become organized enough to force policy changes in DC the way they think the Moral Majority did in the 80’s.

As to the sea change, we have to admit that this is not looking like a good year for Congressional Republicans, we are behind in fundraising, we don’t seem very organized even at the grassroots, and our Opinion Leaders like Rush and even lesser guys like Boortz are not in love with Mad John, so there will be no general consensus to lift spirits out in America.

Hastert’s loss should not be overlooked, there are many many Conservatives and just moderate Republicans who are disenchanted with the DC Republicans and that has sort of spread...:


10 posted on 03/15/2008 8:46:34 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: paul in cape

Nicely put.


11 posted on 03/15/2008 8:48:06 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

btt


12 posted on 03/15/2008 8:51:11 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This mediot misses a big point.

If the Dim campaign continues its self-destructive path to a bitter, divided end, there will be no coattails, no pant suit hems to share with Congressional wannabe’s to grab onto. Pubbies in Congressional races may benefit nicely.


13 posted on 03/15/2008 8:51:42 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: paul in cape

“Drink up...I’m a f%*&ing steamroller”


14 posted on 03/15/2008 8:54:46 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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Hastert’s loss is no loss. He’s gone on to the big Pork Barrel in the sky, er I mean Illinois. http://www.illinois.gov./. If he was doing what was expected of him the majority would still be his.


15 posted on 03/15/2008 8:57:06 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: paul in cape
"Progressive". That's so Eugene V. Debs . Happy 1920 everybody.
16 posted on 03/15/2008 9:01:19 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whistling past the graveyard or accurate predictions?

The usual "talking points", mostly. About halfway through it becomes clear that this was more or less written by the DNC:

"the Iraq debacle abroad, which consumes $10 billion a month while alienating us from allies and eroding our security...conservatism is exhausted and divided...The neocons are discredited...the country clubbers disdain the fundamentalists...Main Street conservatives are appalled by the corruption and incompetence of the Bush Administration...Conservatives are in disarray..."

They assume (wrongly) that they don't need to provide any proof or even a single anecdote that backs up any of these assertions.

17 posted on 03/15/2008 9:03:01 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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A lefty liberal trying to relabel himself and the party as Progressive. Sorry, it's more liberal now than it ever was. Socialism might be more accurate; Progressive, no. Regressive, as in the Carter years, yes. And we might be heading for 4 more years of Carter-like stagflation under the Democrats. Shall we call it the O-bomb-a Era, or perhaps the Down-Hillary Years?

Notice, not a word about illegal immigration, border security, getting America to be more energy independent, or tax relief — NOT minor areas of concern to many Americans.

18 posted on 03/15/2008 9:05:57 PM PDT by detch
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The sad reality is one of a steady march toward loss of soverignty on an international front, while our Constitution is increasingly trampled at home for the purpose of eliciting "security" and "prosperity", regardless of which Party is in power. Small victories on narrow fronts are enough to tout the effectiveness of programs, but overall, we have lost a great deal of ground since the 1950s on all fronts. The very things which once defined us and separated us from the Communists have become incorporated in our own government.

(One cannot overemphasize how much hangs on the Heller Case (pending) before the SCOTUS: it will define our future as a Republic more than we know.)

Communism has never been so healthy as it has been after being proclaimed "dead", mainly because it is an idealogy, not a specific face or place, and idealogies can creep into and pollute other trains of thought one molecule at a time--especially with willing standard bearers who will infuse those thoughts into the young in the guise of education.

We may have reached the place where two parties may be meaningless, except for window dressing. The advancement of the Globalist agenda, The New World Order, whatever you call it, is nearing the point where differing parties are no longer needed to maintain the illusion of countervailing philosophies, and in fact, they have been converging in their apparent philosophies, at least as expressed in their actions, whether through the cumulative effects of small corruption of idealogies or design.

If someone like Soros is backing both sides, our horse never made it out of the gate.

19 posted on 03/15/2008 9:09:02 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: ncalburt

Notice the writer fails to mention that Reagan won re-election in 1984 by one of the biggest landslides in history.


20 posted on 03/15/2008 9:17:59 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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