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Weather Channel Founder: Sue Al Gore for Fraud (wising up to the fraud)
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| 3/13/2008
| fox news
Posted on 03/13/2008 2:53:46 PM PDT by tobyhill
The founder of the Weather Channel wants to sue Al Gore for fraud, hoping a legal debate will settle the global warming debate once and for all.
John Coleman, who founded the cable network in 1982, suggests suing for fraud proponents of global warming, including Al Gore, and companies that sell carbon credits.
"Is he committing financial fraud? That is the question," Coleman said.
"Since we can't get a debate, I thought perhaps if we had a legal challenge and went into a court of law, where it was our scientists and their scientists, and all the legal proceedings with the discovery and all their documents from both sides and scientific testimony from both sides, we could finally get a good solid debate on the issue," Coleman said. "I'm confident that the advocates of 'no significant effect from carbon dioxide' would win the case."
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; carboncredits; globalwarming; johncoleman; weatherchannel
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To: Digital Sniper
I always wondered who was charging for these carbon credits and what they were doing with that money.We may see, in the near future, both an ex-vice-president, and Nobel prize winner get a long jail term for fraud.
Sweet!
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:28:20 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: tobyhill
I’ll sign up if it’s a class action lawsuit.
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:31:31 PM PDT
by
Real Cynic No More
(The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
To: tobyhill
Owl Gore has his head firmly up his ample ass....
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:33:57 PM PDT
by
clintonh8r
(An Obamanation would be an abomination.)
To: Digital Sniper
I always wondered who was charging for these carbon credits and what they were doing with that money.
What makes it work, as I understand it, is that developed countries like Germany charge businesses a pollution tax based on their emissions.
To reduce these taxes, the German company buys the credit for pollution-reducing equipment installed in a developing country, like China or India.
The pollution-reducing equipment installed overseas makes a big difference in the foreign plant's emissions, and the amount of this reduction is applied against the German company's emissions in calculating the German tax.
I believe that the problem is in the pollution tax itself, which is set according to government fiat. I know that in a related area of solar panels, for example, the German government forces the utility companies to buy back electricity from households generating power from solar panels, at a price far above what the utility company itself charges for electricity. So these pollution laws tend to be imperfect substitutes for the market economy and thus overall reduce growth and often don't even reduce pollution, which the laws incentivize in other forms.
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:34:15 PM PDT
by
kenavi
("My mudder thanks you, my fodder thanks you, and Obama thanks you!")
To: tobyhill
How ironic:
The guy who really did invent the Weather Channel vs. the guy who thinks he invented the internet.
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:36:07 PM PDT
by
capt. norm
(Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
To: Magnolia
Can I assume this guy has the $$$ and clout to get it done?Doesn't matter.
If enough of us pledge $5 a month to sustain the litigation, we could break the idiot Gore, sooner or later, and leave him no money for a defense.
He can go on to selling used cars...
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:38:05 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: tobyhill
Quick thoughts -
In a fraud suit would they have to prove that Gore knew it was a fraud for him to be found guilty?
Also, I don't think they could find any jury that would unanimously vote that anthropogenic climate change is wrong or a fraud--there would always be people on the jury who would say "I don't know who to believe, it's soooo confusing!" and vote not guilty. Then, of course, the media would trumpet "Global warming deniers lose case!!" and we would be worse off than before.
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:39:38 PM PDT
by
ZGuy
To: Publius6961
If enough of us pledge $5 a month to sustain the litigation, we could break the idiot Gore, sooner or later, and leave him no money for a defense. I'm in.
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:40:04 PM PDT
by
Magnolia
To: SF Republican
What does one take after too much popcorn.A laxative.
49
posted on
03/13/2008 3:41:43 PM PDT
by
TruthShallSetYouFree
(Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
To: tobyhill
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:42:08 PM PDT
by
halfright
((carbon credits on sale now.....))
To: hinckley buzzard
As with Obama's middle name, the speech Nazis have made a body of informed skeptical information a forbidden utterance.It's not necessary to discuss Barack's (Buraq's) middle name. His first name is damaging enough: Buraq = Bearer of mohamed...
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:42:11 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: Digital Sniper
I always wondered who was charging for these carbon credits and what they were doing with that money.Read today's Wall Street Journal, there is a Front page article on Richard Sandor, an economist that has made $260 Million from this scam..
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:48:31 PM PDT
by
Wil H
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
I have your “toxic sanctimony” credits available for purchase right here.
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:51:02 PM PDT
by
Grammy
To: tobyhill
Will someone please check the records before Al came up with this scam. I’m sure there were quite a few GREEN investments before the big push on global warming.
Al “the scam man” Gore. “think of me every time you screw in an energy efficient light bulb because I just did the same to you”!
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posted on
03/13/2008 3:53:17 PM PDT
by
ronnie raygun
(Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
To: tobyhill
A google news search reveals no one other than Fox News in running this story. If fact, I found articles in the blogosphere marginalizing and ridiculing John Coleman.
The MSM is perpetuating this fraud.
To: Pablo64
There’s no reason we couldn’t. If proven, pretty much the entire population of the world has a claim.
To: BradtotheBone
What do you mean posted already?
I never saw it before, and Im the center of the universe!
Didnt you get the memo?
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posted on
03/13/2008 4:04:32 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
To: kenavi
To reduce these taxes, the German company buys the credit for pollution-reducing equipment installed in a developing country, like China or India.That means the "developing country" gets a subsidy from Germany, which helps transfer wealth and comparative advantage to the D.C. And of course who really monitors how the Chinese actually spend the subsidy, considering that no one is able to monitor and control the toxic chemicals in Chinese export food, toys, etc.?
You have to wonder if Chinese intelligence isn't helping finance "global warming" propaganda.
To: capt. norm
I knew John when he was at WLS TV doing weather. He was also doing weather on the Morning show on the ABC TV Network.
He was a great guy. I don't think he has money problems. His wife was an heir to the McDonald-Douglas fortune.
John's brother in law was a good friend of mine and we had dinner together in Chicago once. John decided to take our wives and us to dinner. He asked where we would like to eat. I suggested a very nice place and asked if we needed reservations to get in. John looked at me strangely and just said, lets go.
When we walked in the Matre'd looked up and said.."Oh Yes Mr Coleman ..Good to see you sir... your table will be ready in just a second, Sir." less than a minute later we were seated.
To: TruthShallSetYouFree; SF Republican
NOOOOO! Imodium!
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