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Islamic states seek world freedom curbs (using the UN): humanists
Yahoo News ^ | March 12 2008 | Robert Evans

Posted on 03/12/2008 3:27:35 PM PDT by knighthawk

GENEVA (Reuters) - Islamic states are bidding to use the United Nations to limit freedom of expression and belief around the world, the global humanist body IHEU told the U.N.'s Human Rights Council on Wednesday.

In a statement submitted to the 48-nation Council, the IHEU said the 57 members of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) were also aiming to undermine the 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

"The Islamic states see human rights exclusively in Islamic terms, and by sheer weight of numbers this view is becoming dominant within the U.N. system. The implications for the universality of human rights are ominous," it said.

The statement from the IHEU, the International Humanist and Ethical Union, was issued as the U.N.'s special investigator on freedom of opinion and expression argued in a report that religions had no special protection under human rights law.

Ambeyi Ligabo, a Kenyan jurist, said in a report to the Council limitations on freedom of expression in international rights pacts "are not designed to protect belief systems from external or internal criticism."

MOUNTING SUCCESS

But this argument is rejected by Islamic states, who say outright criticism -- and especially lampooning -- of religion violates the rights of believers to enjoy respect.

The IHEU statement and Ligabo's report came against the background of mounting success by the OIC, currently holding a summit in Dakar, in achieving passage of U.N. resolutions against "defamation of religions."

Although several such resolutions have been adopted by the two-year-old Council and its predecessor since 1999, in December the U.N.'s General Assembly easily passed a similar one for the first time over mainly Western and Latin American opposition.

The OIC -- backed by allies in Africa and by Russia and Cuba -- has been pushing for stronger resolutions on "defamation" since a global controversy arose two years ago over cartoons in a Danish newspaper which Muslims say insult their religion.

The "defamation" issue has become especially sensitive this year as the U.N. prepares to celebrate in the autumn the 50th anniversary of the 1948 Universal Declaration, long seen as the bedrock of international human rights law and practice.

The OIC has been actively promoting its own 1990 Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam, which it argues is complementary to the Universal Declaration but which critics like the IHEU say negate it in many areas.

Humanists, who include believers of many faiths supporting separation of religion and state as well as atheists and agnostics, say the "defamation" drive is part of an effort to extend the Cairo declaration to the international sphere.

The IHEU statement argued the December General Assembly resolution means states "may now legislate against any show of disrespect for religion, however they may choose to define 'disrespect'."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crushislam; getusout; islam; muslims; un; unitednations; unitednazis

1 posted on 03/12/2008 3:27:36 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: Tom Jefferson; backhoe; BARLF; timestax; imintrouble; cake_crumb; Brad's Gramma; MizSterious; ...
No more UN for US-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

2 posted on 03/12/2008 3:28:35 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: dennisw; watchin; VOA; timestax; xJones; justshutupandtakeit; TopDog2; ThomasMore; Publius6961; ...
Islam-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

3 posted on 03/12/2008 3:28:56 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk
But this argument is rejected by Islamic states, who say outright criticism -- and especially lampooning -- of religion violates the rights of believers to enjoy respect.

Since when is respect a right? I always thought is was something that you earn.

4 posted on 03/12/2008 3:31:46 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (New tag line in progress.)
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To: NurdlyPeon
And what they're earning is certainly not respect.

This is the same approach the Liberal Left seem to be taking vis-a-vis homosexual "respect" (a right defensible in court, not earned by behavior).

5 posted on 03/12/2008 3:40:05 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: knighthawk
"The Islamic states see human rights exclusively in Islamic terms, and by sheer weight of numbers this view is becoming dominant within the U.N. system. The implications for the universality of human rights are ominous," it said.

YET, one more stinking reason to run this bunch of surrender monkies out of our country. Let freaking France, Kuwait, or Iran have the UN. We DON'T NEED the damned UN.

6 posted on 03/12/2008 3:42:30 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama: NOT the next JFK. He is the NEXT STALIN!!!! Wake up America!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy

Well, Obama would certainly give US away to the UN and it’s islamic masters.


7 posted on 03/12/2008 3:46:41 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

I believe he has already got passed $890 billion reasons to give to the UN already recently.


8 posted on 03/12/2008 3:47:49 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama: NOT the next JFK. He is the NEXT STALIN!!!! Wake up America!!!)
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To: knighthawk
Obama would certainly give US away to the UN and it’s islamic masters

No doubt about that.

9 posted on 03/12/2008 3:52:57 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: knighthawk

In response to demands from three Egyptian Muftis, the United Nations is drafting a resolution that would require member nations to ban religious insults. The insults covered under this ban include the publication of any images or words offensive to “recognized religious authorities.” Examples of the kinds of insults covered were expounded upon by Mufti Mahranik Faoul. “The Danish cartoons of Muhammed (may peace be upon him) were an insult,” Faoul said. “The Geert Wilders film is an insult. Any words spoken by a Jew are an insult.”

Faoul rebuffed assertions that Islamic nations do their share of insulting other religions. “There is no God but Allah,” Faoul declared. “Any so-called religion that does not recognize this fact has no authority to claim it has been insulted. These are not genuine religions. They are the lies of the infidels.”

read more...

http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


10 posted on 03/12/2008 3:52:59 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: knighthawk
"violates the rights of believers to enjoy respect."

I believe in free access to ... just about everything,
the sanctity of '56 Oldsmobile hubcaps,
tax-exemption for old white guys (will settle for allowing dogs and cats as dependents),
my rights to privacy/occasional flatulence & body oder/asinine opinions (when appropriate) & 45 cents a gallon gasoline,
a fatwah against rice burners,
an end to the tyranny of automobile mufflers,
and return to the gold standard:
on Thursdays we sacrifice pigeons,
or bureaucrats.

RESPECT ME!

11 posted on 03/12/2008 3:55:01 PM PDT by norton
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To: knighthawk

For being so accomodating, Liberals think Islamists will give them a free pass when the mullahs take power.


12 posted on 03/12/2008 3:57:14 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: knighthawk

Why are we still a member of the UN?


13 posted on 03/12/2008 4:23:16 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: John Semmens

No surprise that they would leave themselves an out.

Hypocrites.


14 posted on 03/12/2008 5:54:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: knighthawk

Thanks for the ping.


15 posted on 03/12/2008 6:13:17 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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To: knighthawk

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1984667/posts

‘Islamophobia’ a threat to world security, say Muslim states [Barf Alert]
Breitbart ^ | 3/12/08 | n/a

Posted on 03/12/2008 3:09:44 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim

The world’s Muslim countries warned Wednesday that an “alarming” rise in anti-Islamic insults and attacks in the West has become a threat to international security.

[It appears that it is all our fault..........sad and going to lead to lots of trouble, if not stopped......granny]


16 posted on 03/12/2008 6:15:34 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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To: knighthawk
And Yellow Streak, my new pet term for Hussein Obama, is sponsoring a bill in the Senate to subsidize the UN for nearly $100 billion a year of US taxpayer money.

I call Hussein "Yellow Streak", because he is the pre-defeated and avowedly ass kissing candidate of the enemies of freedom, complete with white flag and yellow streak.

17 posted on 03/12/2008 8:26:16 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: John Semmens

Haha. Funny guy. Glad you put those disclaimers in.


18 posted on 03/12/2008 8:35:50 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: ought-six

Political correctness..


19 posted on 03/12/2008 10:45:07 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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