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Jail for Belgians Who Reject Polio Shot
AP on Verizon Central ^ | March 12, 2008 | Maria Cheng

Posted on 03/12/2008 2:35:59 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

LONDON - As doctors struggle to eradicate polio worldwide, one of their biggest problems is persuading parents to vaccinate their children. In Belgium, authorities are resorting to an extreme measure: prison sentences.

Two sets of parents in Belgium were recently handed five-month prison terms for failing to vaccinate their children against polio. Each parent was also fined $8,000.

"It's a pretty extraordinary case," said Dr. Ross Upshur, director of the Joint Centre for Bioethics at the University of Toronto. "The Belgians have a right to take some action against the parents, given the seriousness of polio, but the question is, is a prison sentence disproportionate?"

The parents' sentences were delayed to give them a chance to vaccinate their children. But if that deadline also passes without the children receiving the injections, the parents could be put behind bars.

Because of privacy laws, Belgian officials would not talk specifically about the cases, such as why the parents refused the vaccine or how much longer they have to get their children vaccinated.

The polio vaccine is the only one required by Belgian law. Exceptions are granted only if parents can prove their children might have a bad physical reaction to the vaccine. There are no exceptions for people who object to vaccinations on religious grounds.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belgium; poliovaccine

1 posted on 03/12/2008 2:36:00 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The New World Order

All your children belongs to us.


2 posted on 03/12/2008 2:39:01 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
The last recorded case of polio in Belgium was in 1989. SOURCE. Three cases in 28 years. Public health isn't the issue here, political power is. BTT.
3 posted on 03/12/2008 2:40:39 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“Miserable Fat Belgian B@stard” authorities.


4 posted on 03/12/2008 2:43:08 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

In this case it is best to forge the papers and stay below the radar screen.


5 posted on 03/12/2008 2:48:38 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Billthedrill

My understanding is the only cases these days are a result of the oral vaccination (which isn’t used in the US.) When there are cases here, it has always been shown they have been around someone who has received the oral vaccination.

I know there’s a pocket of countries in the Middle East where Polio is a risk, I’m not sure if those are vaccine or still outbreak related.


6 posted on 03/12/2008 2:54:33 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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To: porter_knorr
"I know there’s a pocket of countries in the Middle East where Polio is a risk..."

In that case, concern on the part of EU authorities is probably warranted.

7 posted on 03/12/2008 2:56:55 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

It’s sort of interesting that, despite there being only one forced vaccine ( in contrast to the endless slew required here) that there do not appear to be raging epidemics of childhood illnesses there, like proponents of forced vaccination always claim there will be if every single one of America’s children are not vaccinated.. In fact, they have a way lower incident of infant mortality than we do.


8 posted on 03/12/2008 3:08:38 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: George from New England

This is a matter of public health. The health of the children concerned isn’t the only thing at stake. If too few people are vaccinated against certain diseases, it can lead to a general outbreak...


9 posted on 03/12/2008 3:25:59 PM PDT by thundrey
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To: Red Boots

“In fact, they have a way lower incident of infant mortality than we do.”

They also have a much smaller minority population than we do here in the US. Actualy, the US white infant mortality rate of 4.6% is lower than than Belgium’s overall rate of 4.9%.

What skews our statistics is that blacks have an infant mortality rate that is 3 times higher than that of whites. Having worked in a hospital that primarily served a black population, it was very common to see women come in to give birth with no prenatal care. Probably about 50/50. Some of the more obese women never even knew they were pregnant until their water broke.

Anyway, these sentences seem a bit excessive. Our schools won’t allow children to participate if they don’t have the proper immunizations, which makes sense to me.


10 posted on 03/12/2008 3:32:08 PM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Red Boots
In fact, they have a way lower incident of infant mortality than we do.

Belgium: 6.0 infant deaths per 1000 live births. USA: 6.8 per 1000 live births. Belgium does not count foreigners living in their country and subject to their health care system, although the US does, including probably a significant number of births who have no contact with the "healthcare system" per se. Other countries vary even more in how they gather data.

The US infant mortality data reveal a higher proportion of infants dying the first day-- suggesting many who would not have been born alive elsewhere in the first place, where the ratios are much lower for the day one data. Arguably these deaths have little or nothing to do with communicable diseases.

Liberals in the drive-by media love to use and abuse these statistics as a way to disparage American healthcare and push for government-controlled programs, but they are typically very misleading and illegitimate.

http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA547ComparativeHealth.html

11 posted on 03/12/2008 3:35:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: thundrey

There is the principle of “herd immunity”

For many of these diseases that is around 70%.

Forcing 100% is about control - global new world controls, not about health.


12 posted on 03/12/2008 6:53:24 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: porter_knorr
My understanding is the only cases these days are a result of the oral vaccination (which isn’t used in the US.)

When did they stop that? Both my kids had the oral vaccination. (early 90's)

13 posted on 03/12/2008 9:27:11 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: Marie

I was thinking about 10 years ago. My nephew had the oral, his younger sister the shot.

http://voanews.com/specialenglish/2008-03-03-voa2.cfm
says 8 years ago.

I can remember as a young teen(20 + years ago) babysitting, my mom would not let me babysit kids that had just had the polio vaccination, one of the news programs had carried a special where a father got polio after his child received the vaccination.


14 posted on 03/12/2008 9:51:44 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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To: porter_knorr
It's funny (not really), but when my daughter got her vaccine the nurse happily told me that the rest of the family would get a booster from being around her.

Now it turned out, years later, that my daughter ended up with an immunodeficiency issue. For years she battled with weird diseases; Lyme (confirmed by blood test and spinal tap), Valley Fever, chronic strep, chronic ear and UTI infections... it just wouldn't seem to end. Although fully vaccinated, she still got measles.

I'll bet that happy little nurse wouldn't have been so flip had she known the possible consequences of that vaccine. Thank G-d that my daughter didn't get polio.

15 posted on 03/12/2008 10:33:57 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: George from New England

So they’re relying on other people having the vaccine than taking it themselves? How do you know that 70% or more would have the vaccine if there wasn’t a compulsion element, especially with these BS autism scares over the MMR vaccine and the like that prevent paranoid and ignorant parents from giving them the vaccine?


16 posted on 03/13/2008 2:43:39 AM PDT by thundrey
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To: thundrey

It’s much more than autism scares that keeps parents from giving their children vaccinations.

It’s fairly arrogant to assume it’s ignorance that keeps people away from vaccinations.


17 posted on 03/13/2008 9:42:02 AM PDT by porter_knorr
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