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Largest U.S. Underground Welfare State
Old Vet ^ | March 6, 2008 | Gabriel Delgado

Posted on 03/12/2008 10:16:23 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

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To: raybbr
  Not exactly inspiring, is it?!
 North American Union! No loyalty? No Problemo!

41 posted on 03/12/2008 4:07:15 PM PDT by Ron H. (Count me in the swelling ranks of recently unDocumented & dissatisfied former Republicans.)
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To: Ron H.
Not exactly inspiring, is it?!

Every time I read that speech I wonder about all the U.S. soldiers that have sacrificed for the U.S. Were they really fighting so Bush could declare that a "new America" - one that was bi-lingual - was what we wanted?

Did they sacrifice their lives for a country whose borders merely posed an inconvenience to mexicans and South Americans who wanted to come here?

Did they really die to defend the dilution of American culture?

I don't get it.

42 posted on 03/12/2008 4:15:12 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: The_Republican

Your problem is that apparently you still think that Republicans and Conservatives are the same. They aren’t, and the Republican agenda is getting less conservative every day.


43 posted on 03/12/2008 4:21:07 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: BGHater

One can only come to the conclusion that he (and the rest of Washington with few exceptions) doesn’t want the border closed.
susie


44 posted on 03/12/2008 6:46:10 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: jeddavis
There is no reason why Mexico should have any say in our immigration policies.

A big giant AMEN!

45 posted on 03/12/2008 6:51:14 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: The_Republican
You call it cynicism, I call it facing reality. I have watched this for years, first in surprise, later in horror, and now in the realization that there is very little I can do about it. One reason is that many people still fail to understand or believe that both parties are complicit in this.
Susie
46 posted on 03/12/2008 6:53:26 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: The_Republican
Klinton-Dems opened the doors to get votes

Clinton was on the vanguard of globalizing our economy in order to loot the American economy to advantage transnational corporations who want to use the third world as their place of production.

It never was about the vote, but opportunists in the race racket took advantage of it.
47 posted on 03/12/2008 7:16:36 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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48 posted on 03/13/2008 3:47:58 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: raybbr

I think the powerful would like to see America become more like the third world because they like the idea of the separation of classes and the stability (for them) that comes with it.

In the third world wealth lasts, there are few risks to the powerful from enterprising ladder climbers since there is no ladder to climb.


49 posted on 03/13/2008 3:58:06 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

bttt


50 posted on 03/13/2008 3:58:44 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: The_Republican; Parmy; All
You are all missing the big picture here and ther's not a whole lot you or me can do about it. There are no Republicans, Democrats, libertarians etc.

There are only multinationals and groups like CFR, the Trilats, the Bilderbergs, etc.

They control what happens to the economy, where wars are fought, who our elected officials are and through the mass media and most likely the pharmaceutical industry, how we feel and think.

So if it sometimes feels like you're in the Twilight Zone...YOU ARE! Stay vigilant, Stay armed.

51 posted on 03/13/2008 4:25:43 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Hank Hill's Dad, Cruella and Curious George=Loony Toons)
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To: The_Republican

To get a more sophisticated view than “Republicans or Democrats”, start with the member list of the American Meat Insitute, which the is meat industry’s lobbyist and trade association and which has promoted “comprehensive immigration reform” in both 2006 and 2007.

http://www.meatami.com/Template.cfm?Section=AMI_Member_Company_Links&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=2996

Note also that AMI members like Hormel, tCargill, Tyson, and Libby have been repeatedly busted for hiring hundreds and more of illegals in their plants. It’s very well documented.

But that’s just a start. All major industries support similar associations, and they all support Amnesty through their trade associations (aka K Street Lobbyists).

The “Republicans vs Democrat” view is extrememly superficial and won’t provide you any answers at all.


52 posted on 03/13/2008 5:19:59 AM PDT by angkor
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To: wolfcreek

>>>>>You are all missing the big picture here ...
There are only multinationals and groups like CFR, the Trilats, the Bilderbergs, etc.

whoa, that’s wayyyyy too big a picture for me, because I don;t believe in conspiracies.


53 posted on 03/13/2008 5:29:18 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor

“whoa, that’s wayyyyy too big a picture for me, because I don;t believe in conspiracies.”

Kinda makes my point. It’s hard for some to think outside the box.


54 posted on 03/13/2008 5:36:08 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Hank Hill's Dad, Cruella and Curious George=Loony Toons)
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To: wolfcreek

>>>>>Kinda makes my point. It’s hard for some to think outside the box.

Why would you need to? See my #52 above.

You don’t need the CFR or Trilateral Commission to explain why the American Meat Institute, the Council Of Chain Food Restaurants, the American Home Builders Assoc., and the other trade associations are and have been actively lobbying in DC for for more unskilled, low-wage peasant laborers who don’t speak English and are generally compliant workers.

You’d certainly want to continue with an unskilled labor rate which is 40 to 60 percent LESS THAN that of the late-1970’s.

Again, there’s no need for shawdowy elitist machinations to explain this stuff.


55 posted on 03/13/2008 7:16:46 AM PDT by angkor
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To: The_Republican
Hire me Mac!!!

He has the lobbyist for the chamber of commerce, Americas premiere slaver pusher, on his payroll, so you don't have much of a shot.

56 posted on 03/13/2008 9:05:20 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Cheap labor for wealthy campaign contributors.

Bingo!!

57 posted on 03/13/2008 9:06:56 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: angkor; wolfcreek

I see what you are saying. Multi-National need cheap labor and bribe everyone to keep the doors open.....

I hope GOP is better than that......


58 posted on 03/13/2008 9:24:11 AM PDT by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: angkor
“Again, there’s no need for shawdowy elitist machinations to explain this stuff.”

Do you think these groups (your examples) act independently of each other? There has to be a cohesive force that binds them ideologically.

I'm simply taking it a step farther.

59 posted on 03/13/2008 1:00:31 PM PDT by wolfcreek (Hank Hill's Dad, Cruella and Curious George=Loony Toons)
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To: The_Republican

“I hope GOP is better than that......”

Look at their candidate for President.


60 posted on 03/13/2008 1:02:17 PM PDT by wolfcreek (Hank Hill's Dad, Cruella and Curious George=Loony Toons)
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